My intention is not lesser evilism, just what is plausible. The media is not monolithic even though it appears so. The facts that outlets such as InfoWars, and enough extreme right-wing notions that created this current cult in office is proof that the media can no longer control the narrative as much as they want. I would have fully agreed with you 10 years ago, but the mass availability of information has become exponentially greater.
Yes, if Trump wins people do pay attention. My issue with that is, assuming a proper revolution gets underway, any number of fail-conditions on that path will result in an American Theocratic Facist state on a scale you cannot remotely convince me compares to the shell of which is in place today.
I don’t see this as lesser evilism. I see this as pragmatism in two hypothetical scenarios.
so you're saying it would be bad if trump won because it leads to the greatest chance of revolution, and if the revolution fails then we're under the thumb of government, and you'd rather that we continue this incremental change bullshit, and think that that would be a better route, despite the fact that during the last fifty years the country has regressed rather than progressed. am i getting that right?
so you’re saying it would be bad if trump won because it leads to the greatest chance of revolution
No.
if the revolution fails then we’re under the thumb of government
Yes.
and you’d rather that we continue this incremental change bullshit, and think that that would be a better route, despite the fact that during the last fifty years the country has regressed rather than progressed
No. I’m saying a revolution would be a better route. And that it occurring under “incremental change bullshit” has a less risky chance of working.
No, it doesn’t. I’m not saying it leads to a revolution at all. But there has been no incremental change the past 4 years. Only far-right extreme change and Americans dying by the thousands. A revolution is primed in either outcome.
your opinion is American Stockholm Syndrome.
It must be nice to not be a hostage. To not be a marginalized class. To not be repeatedly and personally threatened that you will be the first on the firing line, the first target of domestic terror. It must be nice.
My intention is not lesser evilism, just what is plausible. The media is not monolithic even though it appears so. The facts that outlets such as InfoWars, and enough extreme right-wing notions that created this current cult in office is proof that the media can no longer control the narrative as much as they want. I would have fully agreed with you 10 years ago, but the mass availability of information has become exponentially greater.
Yes, if Trump wins people do pay attention. My issue with that is, assuming a proper revolution gets underway, any number of fail-conditions on that path will result in an American Theocratic Facist state on a scale you cannot remotely convince me compares to the shell of which is in place today.
I don’t see this as lesser evilism. I see this as pragmatism in two hypothetical scenarios.
so you're rooting against a 'proper revolution' then?
No. Where did you get that?
because you presented the possibility of failure and said it was an issue.
Yes. Failure in that hypothetical scenario would be pretty bad.
so you're saying it would be bad if trump won because it leads to the greatest chance of revolution, and if the revolution fails then we're under the thumb of government, and you'd rather that we continue this incremental change bullshit, and think that that would be a better route, despite the fact that during the last fifty years the country has regressed rather than progressed. am i getting that right?
No.
Yes.
No. I’m saying a revolution would be a better route. And that it occurring under “incremental change bullshit” has a less risky chance of working.
Partly. You are getting there.
incremental change doesn't lead to revolution. your opinion is American Stockholm Syndrome. it's ass.
No, it doesn’t. I’m not saying it leads to a revolution at all. But there has been no incremental change the past 4 years. Only far-right extreme change and Americans dying by the thousands. A revolution is primed in either outcome.
It must be nice to not be a hostage. To not be a marginalized class. To not be repeatedly and personally threatened that you will be the first on the firing line, the first target of domestic terror. It must be nice.