I'm sure electricity and insurance is also free!

  • Kestrel [comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    Can't afford gas :capitalist-laugh:

    Can't afford an EV :capitalist-laugh:

    I'll just walk to work in the ditch by the road bc there are no sidewalks, then get hit by yellow Dodge Charger

  • RNAi [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Ah great! Where does electricity comes from again?

    • JuneFall [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Lets not be disingenuous. Even though public transport is the way to go, supported by some shuttles in special use cases and the rare electrical car in use, Electrical Vehicles are the way to go.

      There is a reason that a large amount of new cars in China are electrical ones and it isn't the case that electrical cars have to be expensive - in fact they are typically average priced and can be cheap, especially if you compare the virtually non existing gas costs (15-25$ per month). Furthermore the lifetime cost of repair seem to be cheaper for electrical consumer vehicles.

      Everything I said isn't true for Teslas though, they ought to burn. Also in the US the insurance for electrical cars is surprisingly expensive compared to Vietnam and Germany.

      • poopoobanana [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I don't have faith in any non human powered transportation solution. :a-guy:

    • spectre [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      It is coming from cleaner and cleaner sources. Compare the MPGe from 2015 to 2018.

      In the midwest you went from "a prius is more efficient" to "a bit better than a prius" in just three years, a clean doubling, but not all that great. At the same time, places like NY and CA went from "significantly better than a prius" to "2-6 Prius equivalents", once again in just 3 years. I'm interested to see where things get a few more years from now (keeping in mind that the most recent data I found is already three years old now).

      The power grid is getting cleaner, and an electric vehicle will naturally be in lockstep with that. There are many other concerns, including "cars bad" of course, but this is not one of them imo.

  • ToastGhost [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    dumb as doorknobs capitalists like musk think the barrier to mass ev acceptance is that theyre not "cool", thats stupid fucking shit you would only come up with if money was flowing out your ass. the real reason no one switches is theyre all expensive luxury cars and 2022 models with a billion robots staring up your ass. give me an electric car with crank windows and no electronics but a radio with dials that i can buy for 5k and i bet you a lot more people would switch.

    GIVE US THE TOYOTA CORROLAS AND HONDA CIVICS OF ELECTRIC CARS

  • Jew [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Aren't there really bad long-term issues with EVs? Like the battery deteriorates every year and needs to be replaced for like 10k after 10 years? We don't even know how any Teslas hold up over 10 years yet.

  • RedArmor [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    BUILD FUCKING PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION!!!! :agony-turbo: :agony-turbo:

  • princeofsin [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I just want to understand so don't dunk on me but is this what this guy actually believes when he said that or just malice? Because i'm a fucking idiot but even I can understand that if i'm living hand to mouth how the fuck can I afford a new electric car? Am i stupid or thinking too deep?

    • Lil_Revolitionary [she/her,they/them]
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      3 years ago

      He's definitely exaggerating how affordable electric cars are. It's hard to say if he's lying or believing his lobbyists' lies.

      Either way, it's part of a program to promote personal-choice electric vehicles as a solution to the flaws of basing your country around automobiles, instead of funding public transit

  • Ecoleo [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    To be fair to Pete, the options for affordable EVs are growing by a lot every year. With the way used car prices are right now, they still aren't as affordable as many people need them to be, but it's a bit disingenuous to say that an overpriced Tesla is the only option.

    But yes, of course a good public transportation system blows any govt plan for more affordable EVs out of the water.

    • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Charging an ev at home is basically just a homeowner thing, unless apartments are installing chargers.

      • Ecoleo [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Good point. I can also say this drove me away from purchasing an EV recently when I needed a new car.

    • pppp1000 [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      40k is more than an average new car bought in the US.

    • Fundle [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Unless an EV is between 15-20k with a range of 300-350 miles per charge I both cannot afford one nor would it be what I need for the distances I generally have to drive for work

    • NaturalsNotInIt [any]
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      3 years ago

      $0.01 has been deposited in your BidenBucks account. Thank you for your service!

    • Kestrel [comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      Those are all good and necessary things and yet still not enough, and also fuck him anyways

    • pppp1000 [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      What EV subsidies? As far as I know, the federal tax credit only applies if you pay 7k+ in taxes, right? And once all these car manufacturers sell off their alloted numbers this tax credit will go away for the EV vehicles from that manufacturer.