All anarcho punk is naive and poorly informed a d usually was written by actual children, like 13-17 year olds. Chumba were the smartest by a wide margin but it still stands
Funny, I got into anarcho punk when I was 13. Still listen to Conflict every now and again, but thats about it. I don't know that I'd call Chumbawumba anarcho punk, even their earliest shit was just so much more advanced musically than people like Crass or Conflict or bands like that. To me, if you play more than one chord during the verses, it's not anarcho. Gotta be a super shitty player to pull off the anarcho sound.
Anarcho punk was more of a movement than anything sonic. There's plenty of tuneful bands like Zounds and The Mob. Stuff like The Astronauts, Flowers in the Dustbin, Androids of Mu, Blyth Power, Internal Autonomy and a bunch of others were well outside of the normal punk mold and I'm empirically certain Chumba took influence form some of these bands especially considering they had members of some and they played most of their shows through the 80s with anarcho punk and early crust bands. They were part of that scene.
I'm an encyclopedia of punk music. Zounds started as a jam band and it shows and The Mob might be my favorite band. They're kinda post punky I guess, super sincere and earnest but really depressing lyrics.
Man, I could never vibe with post punk. I started getting into punk when I was ~11 or so, so when I learned about it, I think the fact that it wasn't quite as 'fast and angry' as the other stuff I had found turned me off. Wanna give me like, 1 or 2 of your favorite post punk records to check out?
Check out Let the Tribe Increase by the Mob, it's close enough. Chairs Missing by Wire is probably my favorite album .OST people would consider post punk, Seventeen Seconds by The Cure is great too, they still weren't full on goth at that point or the difference between the two was still negligible. I love Joy Division and Unknown Pleasures is great but the 2nd and 3rd track should have been moved further from each other cause they're both surges and it kinda kills the album in the cradle, it picks up after but those two slow minimal songs in a row are a bit tough. The first couple Killing Joke albums are great as well and quite aggressive. Amebix was basically trying to be Killing Joke for their first few years, No Sanctuary is basically a cruder more punk version of Killing Joke's self titled. Their second one What's THIS For? Has a really cool focus on the drums and tribal rhythms. Crass is actually fairly post punk in a lot of their later stuff.
About to go to bed so ill save this post for the morning, but before I go, did Amebix have any demos or anything before Arise, or do you mean to compare that record to Killing Joke?
All anarcho punk is naive and poorly informed a d usually was written by actual children, like 13-17 year olds. Chumba were the smartest by a wide margin but it still stands
Funny, I got into anarcho punk when I was 13. Still listen to Conflict every now and again, but thats about it. I don't know that I'd call Chumbawumba anarcho punk, even their earliest shit was just so much more advanced musically than people like Crass or Conflict or bands like that. To me, if you play more than one chord during the verses, it's not anarcho. Gotta be a super shitty player to pull off the anarcho sound.
Anarcho punk was more of a movement than anything sonic. There's plenty of tuneful bands like Zounds and The Mob. Stuff like The Astronauts, Flowers in the Dustbin, Androids of Mu, Blyth Power, Internal Autonomy and a bunch of others were well outside of the normal punk mold and I'm empirically certain Chumba took influence form some of these bands especially considering they had members of some and they played most of their shows through the 80s with anarcho punk and early crust bands. They were part of that scene.
Ah, see, you know more than I do then. I know Zounds and The Mob by name, though I can't name any songs, and the others are unfamiliar to me.
I'm an encyclopedia of punk music. Zounds started as a jam band and it shows and The Mob might be my favorite band. They're kinda post punky I guess, super sincere and earnest but really depressing lyrics.
Man, I could never vibe with post punk. I started getting into punk when I was ~11 or so, so when I learned about it, I think the fact that it wasn't quite as 'fast and angry' as the other stuff I had found turned me off. Wanna give me like, 1 or 2 of your favorite post punk records to check out?
Check out Let the Tribe Increase by the Mob, it's close enough. Chairs Missing by Wire is probably my favorite album .OST people would consider post punk, Seventeen Seconds by The Cure is great too, they still weren't full on goth at that point or the difference between the two was still negligible. I love Joy Division and Unknown Pleasures is great but the 2nd and 3rd track should have been moved further from each other cause they're both surges and it kinda kills the album in the cradle, it picks up after but those two slow minimal songs in a row are a bit tough. The first couple Killing Joke albums are great as well and quite aggressive. Amebix was basically trying to be Killing Joke for their first few years, No Sanctuary is basically a cruder more punk version of Killing Joke's self titled. Their second one What's THIS For? Has a really cool focus on the drums and tribal rhythms. Crass is actually fairly post punk in a lot of their later stuff.
About to go to bed so ill save this post for the morning, but before I go, did Amebix have any demos or anything before Arise, or do you mean to compare that record to Killing Joke?
They had demos, a song on a Bullshit Detector compilation, 2 singles and a 12inch EP (Basically a full album) prior to Arise. The band started in 1979
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