Stale.
Make a meme about anprims getting rid of broccoli and cauliflower as they're a product of civilization :chefs-kiss:
Anrpims eating the nightshade ancestor of the potato and dying as the non-dangerous potato is a product of the Andean civilizations
Anprims getting teosinte-cobbed because corn was not fully developed until after a few millennia of stratified Mesoamerican civilizations
"im not owned! im not owned!" i say as i slowly shrink and turn into something that has been bred out of existence
On the flip side, domestic cattle are way easier to hunt and gather than bison or giant sloth.
Any time you ask anprims how you'll continue to get the prescriptions you need, you'll be met with "uhh we'll figure it out" or "well the rest of the world will still be making medicine"
That's reassuring lmao
Actual anprims just wanna kill millions with no plan. Or they’re just terminally online :anprim-pat:
Nah the real anprims I’ve meet (all 3 of them) just say it will be worth it cuz those who survive will have a higher quality of life and will live in a society not doomed to self destruction.
:what-the-hell:
Who would win
Heavily industrialized society with all living in extreme comfort but no explicit protections for or regard for nature
Or some kind of byproduct of combustion
I've lived in some crunchy, edge of the hinterlands type of situations. Some with a small group, others totally alone in an old cabin with a cat, no cell phone / internet service, and my thoughts.
I once ran out of heating oil and only had heat from a wood stove I loaded every 12 hours with scrap oak I had gathered from a wood mill that summer. I couldn't get a delivery of more oil because the roads were too fucked up for an entire month.... an uncommon but not rare occurrence. I didn't freeze to death, but it was a lot of effort to keep the house warm. I worked ~300 yards away (an old building with a shitty old heater, so you had to leave your layers on inside), but I had to keep my stove loaded and blazing so pipes didn't freeze while I was out.
It was deep into some mountains where a foot of snow might dump overnight and the winding, rarely serviced county roads were treacherous on good weather days in summer, let alone the 40-50° below freezing that we occasionally dropped to. It was beautiful at times and I wouldn't trade those days and their instructive frustrations for anything, but they taught me not to take conveniences for granted.
I love being in nature and being intimately tied to it in my daily work, but I know deep in my heart that it's an unrequited love. People who want to "challenge" themselves using nature are fools that end up humbled if they're lucky, or destroyed.
I used to know an anprim trans girl. I asked her how we were supposed to get HRT in her ideal Tarzan society and I just got a blank look.
simply extract it from natural growing soybeans smh mh
Oh and get testosterone from uh grapes
Meh. At a certain point, it's akin to asking a trans girl how she's supposed to get makeup and pink clothes and a clutch purse in an anprim society. It's not like the pharmaceutical industry invented being transgender. Modern medicine just affords individuals the ability to conform visually more easily.
If you can express your identity without all the social baggage associated with gender in the first place, you don't need to have a dozen surgeries and a bucket of pills in order to "pass".
I would absolutely not consider HRT anywhere near the same level as purses or conventionally feminine clothing.
It should also be telling that a significantly higher portion of anprims are transphobic themselves compared to other varieties of anarchists.
I mean, if you get rid of the exploitative, socially-harmful and enviromentally-destructive technology while keeping the stuff that actually helps people, and spread everyone out in a bunch of small decentralized communes, wouldn't that just fall under regular anarchism? You could probably have some communes oriented around a more simple, agricultural lifestyle (although I guess actual anprims would want to go the hunter-gatherer route, but if you're keeping useful technology you might as well keep agriculture, as long as it's done in a sustainable manner).
I'm not actually well read on anarchism though, so my perception might be wrong.
Probably. I think a viable soft an-prim take might be not to just reject technology out of hand, but that industrial society at our level is mostly the result of a fossil fuel bubble that will come to an end and we face a serious energy descent. The future would not be some kind of reversion to a mythical hunter gatherer past (The Dawn of Everything makes a pretty good case against some of the main assumptions of real primitivism) but a bizarre clash of the ongoing remnants of the high tech point of the past mixed with far more "traditional" ways of interacting with the land.
My challenge to all the eco-fascists who call for a population reduction - we don't actually know the sustainable carrying capacity of the earth. It may well support something like the population we have today under the most efficient distribution of resources and a return of a large percentage of the population to having some kind of relationship with food production, care work, teaching, etc.
Isn't bad eyesight mainly a product of civilization? I'm honestly asking.
Most people and animals naturally have focal distance problems with their eyes. That is, they are either nearsighted or farsighted. One of my dogs is extremely nearsighted, and the other moderately farsighted. And I'm pretty sure one of my cats is nearsighted. Dim indoor lighting has created a lot of nearsighted people that otherwise would have mostly ok focus, but either way it would be a very common problem.
And it's useful to know how well you can see and the normal focusing range of your eyes aren't the same thing. You can have awful eyesight with cloudy lenses, damaged retinas, etc and not need glasses. And you can have amazing eyesight better than 99% of the population and need glasses.
There's a high variance in the quality of human vision.
If I ditched my glasses tomorrow, I probably wouldn't be safe to drive. But if I didn't own a car, I wouldn't need to.
I drove without glasses for years before realizing how badly I needed glasses. It's sort of terrifying to think about how many people are on the road doing the same thing every day.
Would agriculture be considered anprim, or is hunter gathering more ideal for them?
Assuming they have Rousseauian brainworms, probably a mythical conception of hunter gatherer societies.
