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    • Awoo [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      it’ll just take Trump or some other politicians giving the word and the hunt will be on.

      I think you're waaaaaay overly pessimistic about the response. You could say exactly the same thing of any state in history ever. Little is different in terms of response. The effect of similar events throughout history has been to propel movements, not to deflate them. They don't win anything by themselves, but their lack of existence in any movement is a strong sign that there is a long long way to go for that movement. Until these begin I would not place any potential real historic possibilities within even 20-30 years of now. When they begin I will start looking at situations in a country as heading towards real outcomes.

      The American left has no logistics, no infrastructure, no leaders, and no forward-looking mission. You have scattered groups from all across the spectrum (monitored, of course), all with different ideas. At this point, leftists are arming themselves defensively, and for little else (as much as they may dream otherwise). The military and police are notedly right-wing, and thus the militias that recruit from them have a direct pipeline of ex-soldiers trained in tactics, comms, fortification, and combat, as well as having contacts in law. The left has no such pipeline here.

      I think you're grossly understating the left's infrastructure and grossly overstating the right. The right have zero ability to mobilise, they are trying to mobilise right now and mustering nearly fuck all people. Meanwhile the left is actively mobilising people every single day. They're barely even getting handfuls of militia to come harrass leftist protesters and they're only achieving random assaults on isolated protesters far away from/after the protests. Yes the police are large but they're the state, no surprises there, combining the police into what the right can actually mobilise is very false. The best mobilisation they ever had was charlottesville and they've never come close since. They have no ability to mobilise in the short-term and can only mobilise a few thousand via months and months of organising. They're legitimately quite pathetic

      I don't think it's right to overplay what the right's abilities are and I don't think you should underplay what the left's are. The left has a real habit of mistakenly mixing the state, the fascists and the liberals together to make the enemy seem much larger than it is. The right don't leave their homes, they are cowards, the left does.

      (As an aside, I just realised now I meant NPA not PLA, I just need to correct that.)