Not exactly equivalent to “Shut the fuck up, you dumb piece of shit. Jesus… Disingenuous fucking hack.” but fair point.
I was a bit irked by “Westerners are projecting their fucked up dynamics of race, culture, and language onto China instead of actually understanding the dynamics there ont heir own terms.” handwaiving my experiences and understandings, rather than directly engaging with what I’m saying. Believe it or not, it’s possible to have a different opinion for reasons unrelated to misunderstanding, imperialism, or innate intelligence.
I know a few people from China, or whose parents are from China. And for some reason, funnily enough, we’ve talked about race before. And racism exists in China. It’s not some imperialist western thing to say that there is racism within China haha that’s absurd. And it of course plays into everything, as racism does.
Imo, I would counter the charge of ‘western imperialism addled brain’ with ‘leftist apologists unwilling to recognize obvious racism because that’s not a part of the promise of Chinese socialism’, but that’s a bit too spicy for me to spit without heavily couching it in statements like ‘but who among us really knows for sure’.
Obviously not equivalent, still. To be clear, I wasn't saying racism doesn't exist in China and I don't think that's what his comment was meant to mean either.
But let's just leave it at that.
Half of your comment: "Shut the fuck up, you dumb piece of shit. Jesus... Disingenuous fucking hack."
I mean you weren't coming in with a good faith argument either, were you?
Not exactly equivalent to “Shut the fuck up, you dumb piece of shit. Jesus… Disingenuous fucking hack.” but fair point.
I was a bit irked by “Westerners are projecting their fucked up dynamics of race, culture, and language onto China instead of actually understanding the dynamics there ont heir own terms.” handwaiving my experiences and understandings, rather than directly engaging with what I’m saying. Believe it or not, it’s possible to have a different opinion for reasons unrelated to misunderstanding, imperialism, or innate intelligence.
I know a few people from China, or whose parents are from China. And for some reason, funnily enough, we’ve talked about race before. And racism exists in China. It’s not some imperialist western thing to say that there is racism within China haha that’s absurd. And it of course plays into everything, as racism does.
Imo, I would counter the charge of ‘western imperialism addled brain’ with ‘leftist apologists unwilling to recognize obvious racism because that’s not a part of the promise of Chinese socialism’, but that’s a bit too spicy for me to spit without heavily couching it in statements like ‘but who among us really knows for sure’.
Obviously not equivalent, still. To be clear, I wasn't saying racism doesn't exist in China and I don't think that's what his comment was meant to mean either.
But let's just leave it at that.
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probably shouldve been all of it, these are wrecker level takes