Patrick O.
There is never a guarantee. But those scientist dont seem to get the point. If i will get an infection anyway, maybe better from Omicron in combination with a vaccine than with a more deadly one. To me it seems like fear mongering.
GETTING IT NOW ISN'T GOING TO STOP YOU FROM GETTING IT AGAIN LATER :screm-a: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Edit: it has been two years and people still don't understand basic things like "don't count on natural immunity".
Aah, those scientists that work their whole life in this field are fear-mongering for shite decision the US and it co took. Remind me of a quote : "For some reason, everyone is an immunologist now".
They found that reinfection with SARS-CoV-2 in people who had not received a vaccine could occur as soon as 3 months after initial infection, with a median risk of reinfection within 16 months, under endemic conditions.
A median risk means half the people will fall below it - the point I'm making is reinfection can occur and even if Omicron became endemic, the commenter should be expecting to catching it approximately every 1.5 years for the rest of his life. Considering the risk of complications and possible long-term effects, that would be catastrophic on a population-level.
None of this matters because new variants are guaranteed and, as you point out, that's a larger risk of escaping immunity. Any idea people have of "natural immunity" helping with this pandemic is and has always been pure cope.
The funniest part is his comment is specifically about catching Omicron instead of a potentially more deadly variant, which Omicron probably wouldn't make you immune to and you would still catch.
Isn't there a possibility that Omicron spreads through the population that it burns itself out? Wouldn't this decrease the risk of a new worse varient emerging?
It's the opposite - the more it spreads, the higher the chance of variants forming. The article in OP touches on this, plus the possibility of variants forming in animal populations.
It's clear we need effective strategies to deal with these kinds of pandemics (like China), and that the "let it spread and hope" method the west is adopting is going to kill a lot of people and make things worse.
GETTING IT NOW ISN'T GOING TO STOP YOU FROM GETTING IT AGAIN LATER :screm-a: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Edit: it has been two years and people still don't understand basic things like "don't count on natural immunity".
It just occurred to me that some parents somewhere are probably having chickenpox parties for covid
That was 100% a thing during the beginning of it all, probably still is
Chickenpox vaccines have existed since the 1970s, so chickenpox parties themselves are also ridiculous.
Stop using the lathe!
Aah, those scientists that work their whole life in this field are fear-mongering for shite decision the US and it co took. Remind me of a quote : "For some reason, everyone is an immunologist now".
Yes because "it" is two different things. Two different variants
You can get reinfected with the same variant. We have seen immunity fade over time, both natural and from vaccines.
That makes him even more wrong.
Do you know any where i can read more about this?
From what I have seen previous infection is extremely effective at preventing reinfection
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/coronavirus-reinfection-how-long-might-natural-immunity-last#Analyzing-the-data
One example, but the even bigger issue is that those future variants he's talking about in his comment could just bypass this immunity completely.
That's just for the unvaccinated and with a median risk of 16 months that's pretty long.
For the vaccinated i don't think reinfection should be much of a concern. I agree that the real danger is the emergence of new variants
A median risk means half the people will fall below it - the point I'm making is reinfection can occur and even if Omicron became endemic, the commenter should be expecting to catching it approximately every 1.5 years for the rest of his life. Considering the risk of complications and possible long-term effects, that would be catastrophic on a population-level.
None of this matters because new variants are guaranteed and, as you point out, that's a larger risk of escaping immunity. Any idea people have of "natural immunity" helping with this pandemic is and has always been pure cope.
The funniest part is his comment is specifically about catching Omicron instead of a potentially more deadly variant, which Omicron probably wouldn't make you immune to and you would still catch.
Isn't there a possibility that Omicron spreads through the population that it burns itself out? Wouldn't this decrease the risk of a new worse varient emerging?
It's the opposite - the more it spreads, the higher the chance of variants forming. The article in OP touches on this, plus the possibility of variants forming in animal populations.
It's clear we need effective strategies to deal with these kinds of pandemics (like China), and that the "let it spread and hope" method the west is adopting is going to kill a lot of people and make things worse.
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