• nohaybanda [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    What's annoying is that there really is a solid lefty joke in there, I just don't trust Carr or his shit heel audience to actually mean it this way.

    Cause the observation is absolutely true: the vast majority of libs absolutely don't care about the deaths of the Roma, the LGBTQ people, the communists in the camps. Many do agree it was a good thing, you just need to have a few drinks with them and pass as white before they'll admit it.

    • newerAccountWhoDis [they/them]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      Gay men had to serve their sentences for being homosexual after 1945 and in the FRG after 1949

    • Lundi [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      I'm sorry, but I fail to see how the exact words of Carr's statement can be construed as a lefty joke. This literally just sounds like the 'raising awareness of murdered Gypsies' argument posted above.

      • newerAccountWhoDis [they/them]
        hexagon
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        3 years ago

        No the joke is

        euros don't talk about the Porajmos because they're afraid to admit they see the good sides and people might judge them.

        It exposes the horrible bigotry of most people and at the same time their cowardice. Hypothetically

      • nohaybanda [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        If you remove the "positives" trash and word the end so it's pointed at the bigots instead it could work as observational comedy. Obviously I'm not confident to make it snappy enough to be a good joke, but the material is there.

        Something like: why do Euros hate talking about Roma victims of the holocaust? Cause no one likes to be put on spot admitting how much Nazi shit they actually liked.

        It's pretty meh, but I'm not wasting energy trying to make it work and sure as he'll am not dying on this hill. Maybe you're right and the whole thing is unsalvageable.

        • Lundi [none/use name]
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          edit-2
          3 years ago

          i see what you're saying, but I think that's too charitable a take.

          • nohaybanda [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            I think you're getting me wrong. I don't for a minute believe that this is the joke Carr wanted to make or his audience laughed at. They're all just racist trash. I'm just pointing out with the right wording and audience, the same observation could turn the joke upside down and make it much more poignant.