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  • Parzivus [any]
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    Was looking at wikipedia page about the Holodomor cause I hate myself. Bad, as expected, but some of the numbers seem odd so I decide to speak at one of the sources.
    The figure listed for the drop in grain production that year is, in fact, the drop in melon production, and is off by a factor of ten (7 million tons of melons vs. ~75 million tons of grain). Feelin like a middle school teacher right now.
    BTW, the source they use is actually a really neat book by two professors of Russian history that says, among other things, that the death count used by the UN is well over double the actual number, and that the USSR made absolutely no attempt at genocide in Ukraine, so I'm a tankie now wtf?

    • Soviet_Transnistria [none/use name]
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      Some guy on r/Communism looked through the history of the edits on that page and for most of the early-2000s a lot of them were from a Ukranian holocaust denier from Manitoba who kept trying to play up the hoaxodomor while casting doubt on the holocaust.

      I've been imagining a Wikipedia that's not revisionist, propagandic garbage and how nice it'd be to have humanity's collective knowledge so accessible as Wikipedia but actually trustworthy. It'd be nice.

      Edit: Here: https://old.reddit.com/r/communism/comments/htpkir/investigating_the_origin_of_the_holodomor_article/

    • Gay_Wrath [fae/faer]
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      4 years ago

      lmao. If you have the energy, someone should put that in the talk page or dispute the source. They'll probably do nothing, but at least it will create some busy work for the CIA.

      • Parzivus [any]
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        Went ahead and did it. Turns out someone else had already questioned the same numbers a month or two ago, but didn't look into the source. Maybe it'll get changed.

      • Parzivus [any]
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        I mean, there was absolutely a famine in Ukraine at the time that resulted in millions of deaths, there's no arguing that. The book I was looking phrased it reasonably well:

        These were desperate and brutal men trying to cope with a crisis, not organisers of a deliberate famine.

        Stalin had no reason to start a genocide in Ukraine or at all - the people getting sent to gulags were the kulaks, essentially the bourgeoisie landowners in rural Russia. People bitching about that are the same type as the former Cuban plantation owners that talk about how shitty Castro was.

  • star_wraith [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    White folks love to look back on like the 60s and think "my goodness white people were just so racist back then. I'm so glad that things have gotten so much better and there's so much less racism today, it's virtually non-existent!"

    The reality is 1.) A lot of that racism has been outsourced to the pigs. That's a big reason white people love the cops, they do the racist dirty work for them. And 2.) they see personal feelings about race as the only valid form of racism, so structural racism or the historical legacy of racism doesn't exist in their world.

  • BioWarfarePosadist [she/her, they/them]
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    4 years ago

    I know Marvel is lib shit, but like it actually floored me when I heard Chadwick Boseman died. I don't know why, other than remembering I had a good time watching Black Panther.

    • HarryLime [any]
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      He was just starting the phase of his career as a big name star. He could have been in a lot of great things.

    • anthm17 [he/him]
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      Cause a man died at 42 and that's sad.

      Don't feel like it's weird to have empathy.

    • POKEMONGOTOTHEGULAG [none/use name]
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      If it makes you feel better, the fact that he died at such a tragically young age proves that he wasn't a adrenochrome-harvesting pedo.

  • Gay_Wrath [fae/faer]
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    4 years ago

    I finished Inventing Reality and i'm now completely blackpilled on the idea that we can reform the US. We're never going to get anywhere by playing by their rules.

    The Democrats and Republicans are just two different colored gloves in a puppet show the ruling class is putting on. We already know the full extent of Biden's "plan" is just to basically rejoin the Paris accord and coast off that while everyone goes back to brunch.

    Meanwhile, the imperialist core is always demanding blood, so that won't change. And the prison labor industry is set to expand into immigration detention so the concentration camps deffo will just be rebranded with a mural of nancy pelosi kneeling and they'll call it good.

    But it totally matters which glove of the ruling class you vote for, guys!!! and definitely don't consider those evil bad 3rd party people over there who we won't let onto our puppet show!! there's no chance of them winning so don't even try. But remember to vote for the blue glove even if you live in West Virginia plz <3

  • SimAnt [any]
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    4 years ago

    went on an unhinged rant about Dems in the group text with my (firmly lib) family yesterday. fucking embarrassing to re-read today

  • Soviet_Transnistria [none/use name]
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    Once the boomers go and their spending power vanishes, the entire western economy will collapse right? Like, that's it for the remnants of the pre-2008 consumption economy.

    • asaharyev [he/him]
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      Millennials, at least a select few of them, will inherit that wealth. So nothing is likely to change.

      • Soviet_Transnistria [none/use name]
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        0.1% chance it doesn't get spent on healthcare, homecare, funeral arrangements, and splurged on luxuries by them before that happens for the majority of cases. They're all easy pickin's for the end of life companies and hate the majority of their families.

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          A lot of low level and mid level generational wealth will be lost to death expenses. But it's not going to be some accelerationist moment that leads to a quick collapse.

          It's just going to get a little noticeably worse in a relatively short period of time.

          Perhaps I misread your initial comments, but the idea that there's some sort of impending definitive societal collapse to end the American empire is a fiction. It frustrates me to see this rising accelerationist fantasy arise, that dream is extremely unlikely to become reality.

          Our American empire will collapse at the same excruciatingly slow rate as the English empire.

          • Soviet_Transnistria [none/use name]
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            I don't know why I even bother talking to people anymore. They never understand what I'm saying, they always mangle it into their own paradigm.

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
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      In its current form yes.

      Krugman is a lib but his work on how a modern consumer economy can work solely via high consumption by the 0.1% is sound.

      If you want a vision of the future without Socialism its Downton Abbey, and we're all the chambermaid the Lord's failson is making passes at.

      At least until climate change kills us all. Small mercies huh?