Also me: please let me visit a single hobby subreddit without warmonger libs complaining about how Biden isn’t bombing Russia enough
MORALISTS DON'T REALLY HAVE BELIEFS. SOMETIMES THEY STUMBLE ON ONE, LIKE ON A CHILD'S TOY LEFT ON THE CARPET. THE TOY MUST BE PUT AWAY IMMEDIATELY. AND THE CHILD REPRIMANDED. CENTRISM ISN'T CHANGE -- NOT EVEN INCREMENTAL CHANGE. IT IS CONTROL. OVER YOURSELF AND THE WORLD. EXERCISE IT. LOOK UP AT THE SKY, AT THE DARK SHAPES OF COALITION AIRSHIPS HANGING THERE. ASK YOURSELF: IS THERE SOMETHING SINISTER IN MORALISM? AND THEN ANSWER: NO. GOD IS IN HIS HEAVEN. EVERYTHING IS NORMAL ON EARTH.
Of all the thoughts there are in the game, the ones that stick with me are the four ideology ones.
They did invade, you fucking worm, but they luckly failed. Having even meme-tier history knowledge you leanr that all the fucking nations in the world invaded Russia, it was called the White Army or some shit
Look up the 'polar bear expeditions'. They were the American division sent to help fight the reds on behalf of the Tsarists, alongside a coalition of British, French, Canadian, and even Japanese troops
Like these dudes were legit fighting the Russians well after the end of hostilities with Germany
The World War I memorial in DC includes a memorial to these clowns. Like why would you broadcast that you straight up invaded someone for no reason and then make another memorial about invading Russia.
They literally cannot conceive of a world where liberalism doesn’t destroy communism in the end
liberals just make history up as they go along and everyone keeps believing them. Object permanance has been really bad for my mental health lately
I have a sense that you really can’t fully “get” disco elysium unless you’re communist of some sort.
Not to say that non-communists can’t play it and get a great experience or have interpretations of their own but so much of the communist stuff, which is to me anyway pretty inextricably tied in the world building, has a nuance to it that I think you just simply aren’t going to catch or understand if your world view is brainwormed with anti-communism
Idk very well could just be confirmation bias or something and I don’t mean to gatekeep it but I’m def glad I had found my way to the left before playing that game
ZA/UM have a shiny green-gold bust of Lenin in pride of place on the mantle, which I feel compelled to ask about. Kurvitz jokes that it came cheap ("There was a big sale on Lenin statues after the fall of the Soviet Union") but admits they are probably atypical amongst Eastern European intellectuals.
"I guess my favourite thing I like to say about this is that for me it's just a wholesome tradition. It's about loyalty, it's about the country where I was born," he says. "This is how I was raised, this was who I was told to follow, and I would be a naughty revolutionary, kind of an edgy rebel, if I wouldn't have Lenin on my writing desk." This particular Lenin belonged, he tells me, to Juhan Smuul, a famous, Soviet era Estonian author, so he feels it has a historical connection from him, an Estonian author and writer, to another.
Kurvitz does say that there are aspects of Disco Elysium he considers "essentially Soviet", referencing the Soviet science fiction tradition and the Brothers Strugatsky (who adapted their own novel for the film Stalker's screenplay, which, almost 30 years later, inspired a video game). Kurvitz describes Soviet sci fi as realist, strange and slightly beautiful, but with lofty ideals.
"They were people who took responsibility for the heat death of the universe," he explains. "When they were writing books, this needed to contribute to the ultimate fate of the universe. Because they didn't have money obligations, so what are your obligations then? So this kind of serious responsibility for, what the fuck does a piece of entertainment really do to the human mind, and what are the responsibilities therein, that I think is very, very, very prevalent in Disco Elysium."
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/disco-elysiums-developers-are-in-a-bloody-battle-for-the-human-mind
“They were people who took responsibility for the heat death of the universe,”
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i'm literally tearing up here
You know the meme "If only you know how bad things really are"
Basically that.
bad guy
why are gamers such manchildren lol, worse than comic book fans!
Stormfront is fucking swarming with these warmongers and the recent events have brought them out of hiding.
I'm reminded of the run up to the Iraq War, when everyone online was a hawk, but vanishingly few were crazy enough to actually enlist.
US military readiness has only declined since, with diminished forces spread thinner and thinner across an increasingly insurrectionist landscape. The rest of Europe has absolutely no interest in escalating what was already well past their collective appetites to confront. And Ukraine is just about as far beyond US sphere of influence as you can get without being in a hostile nation.
Its all sound and fury, for now. Just ten million terminally online internet goons pounding sand.
Yeah I don't doubt most of them are a bunch of virtue signalling nerds it's just annoying to see every single place (even places that are "apolitical") being taken over by these dumb takes and you can't do anything about it or you get called a Putin lover
We're definitely riding 2003 vibes, even if it doesn't look like we're about to drive tanks across Europe.
The rest of the thread is just them complaining that the world isn't more like Disco Elysium?
Ah ha, yea mate, imagine if we were living in the shadow of failed revolutions and capitalists controlled everything and everyone’s lives were shit and there was just a prevalent impenetrable air of defeated pessimism amongst the people
Could you imagine :joker-troll: how fucked would that be right
Sounds like it. It’s mind boggling to me that you can consume a piece of media like this and fail to see any parallels just because it’s not a literal one-to-one
It's not just liberals but some twitter leftists is calling anyone who is anti war as "bad faith leftists" lmao. You have to clarify that you are in fact anti Putin before you can say anything bad about the US or NATO. Or else you are a Putinist.
I got called a Putinist on r/dankleft for calling this “a bourgeois war” :internet-delenda-est:
