I am recalling that just a few months ago most Americans couldn't give a shit about Ukraine or what the US had done there since 2014.

Everyone's rightfully and justifiably horrified by the outcome and onset of this war, but it seems that it's given to an irrational zealous degree akin to the initial bloodlust of the 2003 invasion of Iraq, where there is little serious investigation of the context and facts, and politics broke down the conflict to a very Manichaean view of the world and West vs its adversaries in the East.

Russia (especially under Putin) ,considered "guilty until proven innocent", appears to confirm liberal fears with this war confirms all the prejudices about the Russian state - whose qualities are now directed at its people - and now liberals appear to be yearning for Russia to collapse as a state through economic annihilation or a nuclear holocaust.

It's just baffling, because at least with Iraq, there was a context of 9/11 being recent in people's minds and collusion with media propaganda to convincingly brainwash Americans into choosing a scapegoat for a collective bloodlust. With this the political context of this conflict, which Americans have little to no personal stake in , the bloodlust comes off as incredibly selective.

My principal complaint is that this is a dangerous scenario to be courting with global planetary extinction with.

  • NomadicWarMachine [any]
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    2 years ago

    It’s like a semi-alternate reality where twitter is real life

    People who are way too online have more effect on actual politics than detached normies.

    • Magjee [any]
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      2 years ago

      I guess Jan 6th was a case of that

       

      But actual policy doesn't have much to do with people's wants. Otherwise healthcare wouldn't be so unattainable

      • NomadicWarMachine [any]
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        2 years ago

        True, but the people who are more likely to get their wants at least acknowledged (even if it’s in a dismissive way) are the ones who are good at raising a piss fit in forums that policy ghouls actually pay attention to.

        Detached normies are just like “I guess a better social safety net would be nice but I just want to get through my shift at the dick sucking factory so I can go home and watch Real Ice Road Trucker Wives of New York and eat pizza rolls.” They only start caring about politics when the price of pizza rolls goes up.