• Gay_Wrath [fae/faer]
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      So you admit that you are wrong but don't want to go after the people who are actually hurting you? That's kinda pathetic ngl

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          Really? So you don't have to worry about poverty, food, rent, your job, medications, gas, your car payments? The constant grind of being forced to sell your body and mind for menial labor to barely make ends isn't "hurting" you?

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            poverty,

            Solved it for my family by 25

            food, rent,

            I grow my own food on land which I own.

            your job

            I created my job.

            medications

            lol

            gas, your car payments?

            Gas is trivial when you telecommute and I don't like the notion of ownership of my stuff which comes with loans.

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              So your job is 100% guaranteed to last forever? You have literally no fear of ever being homeless?

              And all of your family is doing well? No one you know is struggling to make ends meet?

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                I own my land....i can sleep in the greenhouse.

                it generates foods.

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                  So what are you afraid of then. I fyou have infinite food and land and your entire family is well of financially? What are you so scared of that you're coming here to post about how how "people are trying to screw you?"

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                    Im not scared of anything, champ, like i said im explaining other people's perspective.

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                      You quite literally said this "Everyone in the world will try to screw you."

                      Why did you say that? It sounds like you're living a charmed life.

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                        Screw them back. It has a deterrent effect.

                        I earned my charmed life.

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                            Some asshole gave me lumber and tools in exchange for these dumb slips of paper lmao.

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                              So you screwed them over by engaging in the rules of capitalism? Sounds like you agree it's exploitative.

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                                  Is that true in all scenarios? If someone stole your land would you be okay with it? Since that's the rules?

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                                    If someone stole your land would you be okay with it? Since that’s the rules?

                                    This is what guns are for.

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                                      Sok you're not okay with, if you're willing to fight against some exploitation.

                                      here's the thing. I'm against exploitation at all times. You can be too. It sounds like you actually are against the same exploitation we are. You just need to educate yourself and we'll try to be as nice as possible when helping with that. We don't even want to take your guns.

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                                        I educated myself.

                                        Still a big shrug on the exploitation. You may as well soak up the ocean with a paper plate my dude.

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                                          What does that mean? You don't care because you don't think you can fix it? I don't think i can fix it by myself either. But i can't stay true to myself i don't fight for what is right - true freedom from exploitation for everyone and making the world a better place in however small a way i can.

                                          Are you opposed to making the world a better place?

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                                            Fixing the world is above my paygrade, champ. I prefer my effort to have direct effects on my immediate loved ones.

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                                              One could argue that is the only direct effect you can do anyway. What are you doing then, to help your loved ones and ensure their lives are free from exploitation?

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                                                Insulating them from a system piloted by idiots which also happens to be on fire and heading towards a mine field.

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                                                  Those idiots who set it on fire and set it on the course towards a mine field are all capitalists.

                                                  Why don't you join us in our struggle against capitalism? I just want everyone to have enough land, food, and healthcare.

                                                  But i can't help but notice you didn't actually list any concrete actions. Do you think your posts here will help insulate them from that damage somehow? Or is there more you're doing than simply trying to survive as best you can in a capitalist world, like everyone else is?

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                                                    I just want everyone to have enough land, food, and healthcare.

                                                    I care about a total of maybe 40 people. The rest of you are none of my business.

                                                    i can’t help but notice you didn’t actually list any concrete actions.

                                                    My methods are mine, and I don't want to argue them in public.

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                                                      It doesn't sound like your'e actually doing anything, dude. It's okay, it can be hard to start when you first realize how immense the scale of the problem is.

                                                      I didn't ask you to care about us, but why wouldn't you naturally ally yourself with people who have stated repeatedly they're on your side and want you to have those things? Join us brother, we will take down the capitalists together. In your town, there is probably enough land and food for every single person to have a house and not struggle. But rich people insist on taking more than their fair share. I'm against that, are you?

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                                                        I'll pass. Too many philosophical and mathematical compromises are required.

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                                                          People getting a fair share instead of 1% of people hoarding it all is a "philosophical and mathematical" compromise? In what way?

                                                          i'm trying to be sincere here. You said i didn't want your opinion but i do. If you order a pizza, you'd want, for the most part, everyone at the party to get a fairly equal number of slices, right? That's just common sense.

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                                                            My people don't worry about much of that scarcity nonsense, and neither do I. Struggles over fair share is what we call an out-group problem.

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                                                              Ah, so you're saying you and all the 40 people you care about are well off and you're already in the 1%. I see why you're against us now.

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                                                                You could say we're richer than the 1%....those suckers still have debts and they pay for food and shit like that. .... dummies.

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                                                                  Why are you wasting your time posting here if you're so rich? that's kinda sad. You're not even making a good argument on your own behalf.

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                                                                    I'm enjoying fellowship with other people through the interbutts web machine, it's only sad if you want it to be sad.

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                                                                      It's actually really sad, dude. You'e on here making incoherent and illogical arguments that a child could disarm. Maybe you should spend some time with the 40 people you care about. Or are is there some reason you're choosing our company over theirs? Do they not have internet?

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                                                                        Why would my good time make you sad? Is this the power of caring about more than 100 people?

                                                                        this 69fart69 fella has some interesting thoughts on phrenology, we're having a giggle

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                                                                          Aw, so you're here because you're lonely! That's so sweet, but i encourage you to spend time with your family. You know, because you love them so much you can't think about caring about anyone else in the world.

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                                                                            can’t think about caring about anyone else in the world.

                                                                            Certainly not enough to be manipulated into simping for a stale movement. ..

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                                                                              Ah, you're still responding for some reason. Is your family not on speaking terms with you for some reason? :/

                                                                              It's kinda fucked up you love them so much but you're forced to find social fulfillment here

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                                                                                Now I'm responding because I'm hoping you'll get cute and i can be all uWu as that ususally seems to smooth out ideological disconcert, at least on discord anyway.

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                                                                Being in my family is a really big privilege, and we check it constantly.

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                No one you know is struggling to make ends meet?

                Got em all out of the city wink wink

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                  My family lives in a rural area actually. They're all struggling because the housing market has gone way up.