Biden is neoliberal (neocon?) war criminal and has been since before he even became Vice President. But let's really not be the "actually Trump 2024 is good actually compared to Biden" people. It's not only a bad look, it doesn't reflect our beliefs or principles.

Maybe the couple posts I've seen about this is :fedposting: but Trump is also a fascist and was doing heinous shit with his power too. Not to mention he'd use the post to pogrom trans people. And all of nakedly fascist stuff he did to suppress the 2020 BLM movement (unmarked feds disappearing people in vans??? Thumping a bible on the steps of the capitol while Feds teargassed protestors???)

Fuck Biden and Fuck Trump and fuck anyone who tries to carry water for either of them.

  • StuporTrooper [he/him]
    hexagon
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    3 years ago

    Yeah that's certainly interesting food for thought, but if they immediately went back to the status quo once Biden was in office were they really radicalized? Like isn't that the point of the political pony show, so to weaponize your anger at capitalism against the Enemy Team.

    But really as socialists, our political organization shouldn't be anywhere near the presidential apparatus. Even in rhetoric, I think it's essential that our radicalization doesn't focus on targetting the Republicans or the Democrats, for the reasons we've discussed. We cannot recognize that political apparatus or use it's rhetoric, because then we're just gonna activate latent :brainworms: . Our radicalization should focus on showing that no matter which "party is in power" the real power is the capitalist system designed to exploint every person and resource it can.

    • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Eh. Radicalization is a process, not necessarily a flipped switch. People are much more amenable to hearing about how the system isn't working when you can give them examples that aren't going to put them on the defensive. Having a dem in office absolutely makes that more difficult.

    • CyberMao [it/its]
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      3 years ago

      I didn’t go back. I’ll never go back. I know lots of people who would’ve been back the blue libs and are now reading communist theory. There’s successes and losses and we’ll work with whatever we’re given