Biden is neoliberal (neocon?) war criminal and has been since before he even became Vice President. But let's really not be the "actually Trump 2024 is good actually compared to Biden" people. It's not only a bad look, it doesn't reflect our beliefs or principles.
Maybe the couple posts I've seen about this is :fedposting: but Trump is also a fascist and was doing heinous shit with his power too. Not to mention he'd use the post to pogrom trans people. And all of nakedly fascist stuff he did to suppress the 2020 BLM movement (unmarked feds disappearing people in vans??? Thumping a bible on the steps of the capitol while Feds teargassed protestors???)
Fuck Biden and Fuck Trump and fuck anyone who tries to carry water for either of them.
This is the exact kind of argument that is not helpful and I was explicitly calling out with the main post. There is no "better" between Fash Red and Fash Blue.
Excellent points were made about the difference in material conditions when Trump was in office. In fact I consider myself convinced by that argument, so I would say it is explicitly helpful. Your argument in response to it is just to deny that there is any material difference depending on whether it's "fash red or fash blue" in office? Then why call out people for not being anti-Trump?
Objectively, things are just as bad now if not dramatically worse, but everyone I know in real life is literally back out to brunch. Nobody is even pretending to fight for change anymore. I would argue this is in fact, worse for the actual left (tm).
I mean... I agree to an extent. Neither are "better" but there is absolutely a strategic difference of outcome worth considering. What wording or phrasing would you prefer me to use?