Every once in a while I get that ominous feeling that killing and specially making animals suffer just for me to eat meat, fish and lactose is extremely wrong, but then I kinda forget.

I kinda see myself hunting wild game though so it's weird.

  • MiraculousMM [he/him, any]M
    16·
    4 years ago

    You're right, but saying shit like

    No true leftist is an omni

    is fallacious and cringe

    • FUCKTHEPAINTUP [any]
      10·
      4 years ago

      yeah that’s ultraleft deviation, the primary contradiction in human society is class, so ultra-vegans damning 99.999...% of people with normal diets and pretending they’re still doing politics, and that they just won it, isn’t going to work - colonizer thinking

      but I liked the rest of the post and agreed with it

        • FUCKTHEPAINTUP [any]
          3·
          4 years ago

          I don’t think anyone believes that. All we’re saying is that leftism doesn’t revolve around dietary virtues, we’re letting the masses have their milk and honey

          the masses... the masses must overthrow Burger King for themselves, and they’re going to do that through mass struggle, of which veganism-carnivorism is a secondary contradiction (yes we all align on the vegan side)

          there’s this idea, that you can lead the vanguard through personal choice and extreme purity, that leads people to do this performative petit-bourgeois thing, to take extremely liberal positions (that are good) and declare themselves willing to use the worst of authoritarian revisionism to impose them on the rest of us, as if that’s how we determine party pecking order, as if that’s anything more than an unpopular and performative red fascism

            • FUCKTHEPAINTUP [any]
              1·
              4 years ago

              extreme vegan agitation is helping tremendously, the original argument was against the exclusionary statement that no true leftists can eat animal products, which is of course absurd and alienating for everyone outside of the Whole Foods class of American leftists

              I’m legit outside foraging for wild blackberries while posting this

              • MarxGuns [comrade/them]
                ·
                4 years ago

                I do sometimes feel bad when I rip up my plants that are no longer productive or have been eaten too badly by bugs. They are still living things and respond to their environment. But then I start thinking about being consistent and it results in me eating nothing, or, I eat anything. Any time I think too hard about it, I come down to an absolute for or against thing.

                When I think about animals being slaughter cruely, I also think about animals as they exist in the wild. I think about the pretty brutal videos on that r/natureismetal or whatnot subreddit, of baby creatures being eaten, of animals being ripped open. It is disturbing and brutal. But it's how it works out there.

                No matter. I think that if we are going to eat animals then we should be as humane as possible. I really like the idea of eating lab grown meat and more plants.

    • Mablak [he/him]
      ·
      4 years ago

      makes sense if you consider that cows are comrades