oh shit oh fuck is the government using all those missiles we made for war??
Florists don't promote Valentine's day, and anyone who thinks they do is a conspiracy theorist.
Lol next youre gonna tell me the easter bunny candy manufacturers are promoting easter
No, the easter bunny is a false messiah created to distract from the true resurrection.
Marshmellow eggs, while tasty, are the bourgeouis decadence that Lenin warned of.
Chocolate bunnies are to be filled with peanut butter or another suitable filling
Fuck do those exist? Chocolate and PB is my favorite combo even if it's not good for me
The biggest florist chain in my country once payed 20,000 € to the host of our biggest tv show just to get him to mention on air that Valentine's Day was coming up the next week. No mention of the brand name, not even a "better get some flowers for your ole lady", just banking on the fact that enough guys would go and order flowers through their site when they were reminded of the date.
Sick story.
I despise all of the Hellworld calendar’s holidays so much.
Pavlovian marching into commercial outlets to buy junk for others or else they’ll think something’s wrong with you - because “it is what it is.”
https://www.opensecrets.org/federal-lobbying/clients/summary?cycle=2021&id=D000072615 Raytheon
https://www.opensecrets.org/federal-lobbying/clients/summary?cycle=2019&id=D000000170 Northrop Grumman
https://www.opensecrets.org/federal-lobbying/clients/summary?cycle=2019&id=d000000100 Boeing
I'm dumb so I only know the easy ones off the top of my head.
dude that's only 40M dollars directly bribing US officials! That's not evidence of "promoting war"! you cant prove that what they discuss in those closed door hooker-and-cocaine parties is pro-war lobbying, it could be anything. maybe they're asking the government to order more of the products that they make that arent... okay maybe everything raytheon and northrop make are weapons but uhhhh
youre just triggered, youre a triggered conspiracy theoriest :debatebro-r:
Damn they dont promote war??? As a Raytheon shareholder, I'm going to sue them for violating their fiduciary duty!!
holy shit, is that his actual fucking name? :tito-laugh:
also, "movie companies don't promote watching movies, and anyone who thinks they do is a conspiracy theorist"
Technically this is true, but it's obviously splitting hairs / disingenuous.
Weapons manufacturers don't typically encourage or discourage the US to begin or continue specific military action. They do, of course, facilitate military action and reassure the US that if they do decide to fight, they will win. And they reinforce generally hawkish policy in order to continue the flow of arms sales, which is what they do care about.
So, for example, they don't tell SecDef "you need to deploy troops to Afghanistan now!" They just spend three decades telling the DoD that "Afghanistan is a threat and a problem and the DoD needs to have a ready supply of weaponry so that they are prepared to fight / continue fighting in Afghanistan, which we'll definitely need to do."
Edit: Actually, this isn't even technically true. I just understand what they're trying to say / what they would follow up by saying. I've spent way too long in the corporate world :ohnoes:
Weapons manufacturers don’t typically encourage or discourage the US to begin or continue specific military action
Wasn't the CEO of Raytheon a member of some NGO that hyped counter-revolution in Cuba a few months back?
Yes they do, for example look at the sponsors page of Australian hawk thinktank ASPI: https://www.aspi.org.au/sponsors
Includes Northrop Grumman, Lockheed, NAVAL Group, Raytheon, SAAB... And was first founded in 2001 with seed funding from the Australian DoD.
ASPI produces and promotes national propaganda against designated enemies like China. So it's literally not even technically true that these arms dealers don't promote war. They don't even try to hide it.
Why would they not promote war? It's literally their business
If all other problems were fixed I would fucking love to attend fire range fridays and just fucking unload a tank cannon at large cardboard targets with ten thousand of my best friends.
"Conspiracy theorist" is just a dismissive label and a cop-out to not have to think about these things.
Conspiracies aren't real.
Everyone is a free floating monade divorced from one another. No group of like-minded people would ever attempt to organize in order to achieve a set of mutually beneficial goals. And if anyone ever did, it would clearly occur in plan view of the public, and not as a series of backroom or low profile meetings.
If they're profiting off of war, they're literally financially incentivized to be pro war. Why do we have to understand economics better than these assholes?
Wait, are you trying to tell me that second generation Gusanos are reactionary shitheads? Get outta town, pal!
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