• OfficialBenGarrison [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Honestly, the constant years of the right committing mass violence and effectively getting away with it is what broke me from being an anarkiddie to a classic ML.

      Look, I want people to just get along and in a perfect world I'd still be an anarkiddie, but there's too many people there that are just flat-out evil. I've moved on from misanthropy, because if that were the case I would be better of tedpilling (yeah no thanks). Something is causing this, and it's rich for me to be on a high horse when I was being dragged into the hog camp myself. Thankfully I left that years ago before it's too late.

      • Ligma_Male [comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        for me it was this and the relative success of AES, it certainly seems like you really need a state to play the geopolitics game and have a shot at not just getting crushed by the usa. If i live long enough to see an ML dominated world maybe i'll start leaning more anarchist again.

        • CommCat [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          There's no question one party states have major issues, but it comes down to making long lasting accomplishments or keep to your ideals and accomplish pretty much nothing because you get easily crushed every time you try. We really don't know how an anarchist society will work in a real world situation, I'm sure there will be major problems, because none have lasted for any significant amount of time to mature.

        • prismaTK
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          Removed by mod

      • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Anarchists like those engaged in anti-fascism and the John Brown Gun club have been on the front lines of the fight against fascism. Anarchists have always advocated violence against those who mean to harm us. The distinction between anarchists and MLs is not a debate over whether or not to use violence against cops, fascists, and capitalists. It is a debate about the form that violence should take and when and how it should be deployed.

        Also the fact that you're saying anarkiddie makes me think you're not arguing in good faith.

        Actually, the narrative of anarchist to leninist is weird, I've pipelined leninists the other direction before. How the situation looks probably depends on where you spend more time, anarchist or leninist spaces. In my experience, the anarchist / leninist distinction is mostly about who you know, with a few other weird predictors (rich people and trans women are more likely to be MLs; NBs, poor people, and very mentally ill people show up more in anarchist spaces).

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      I try not to gloat especially during times of extreme crises, but when are they gonna admit the “tankies” have been right the entire time?

      "Tankie" is doublespeak used to marginalize and denigrate the anti-war movement. Its pure nonsense cooked up by Blue Check Mark liberals. No different than Bush's "You're either with us or with the terrorists" line used to justify cracking down on Code Pink, Gold Star Moms for Peace, and Quakers.

      You won't see anyone "admit Tankies are right", because the only people who originate the phrase are the ones that have a vested interest in a totalitarian police state used to crush all opposition.