No it's the opposite this time. Guy couldn't get pain medication literal days after back surgery. This is like the one case where giving someone opiates is appropriate.
Also opioid overdoses have gone up even though doctors are prescribing much less of them in the USA. Almost as if this is war on drugs all over again...
Oh, I totally agree, I must not have stated my point clearly.
I agree that not giving someone drugs for fresh surgical pain is fucking horrifying. I still see the root cause as the backlash to precious over-prescription
It's more that the capitalist system goes though cycles of over prescription of opioids, followed by under prescription, depending on various factors. Never settling on a working baseline. There was a good article about that, I'll try find it soon.
I’ve been thinking about this topic lately and am specially focused on the role of doctors in both the over-prescription and how the overly conservative in Rx.
To me it seems like doctors are typically treated like they are these irrelevant, mere cogs in the system who had little or no agency.
I had accepted that was how it was and didn’t really think about it.
But these are the guys making hundreds of thousands of dollars, who supposedly are some of the most dedicated and brightest individuals out there, and who go through extensive training.
As far as I’m aware there wasn’t a massive academic fraud scheme showing that OxyContin was the best opiate, wasn’t addictive, etc
All the scholarly/clinical research suggested it was pretty much like any other ol opiate
Which basically means doctors didn't and still don’t actually keep up with accurate knowledge. Instead they are swayed by some ‘attractive’ former college athlete who says they are not only the smartest person they’ve ever seen but the most attractive as well - now sell oxy. (This is how it was explained to me by an academic psychiatrist)
We are suppose to excuse doctors for being easily swayed by sandwiches and ass?
:spray-bottle:
(Of course Purdue or whoever is also horribly evil and makes a great example of what pure capitalist drive leads to)
Which basically means doctors didn’t and still don’t actually keep up with accurate knowledge.
This is self-evident to anyone who's ever had any sort of complex medical problem. They are usually jerks about it as well. Shout-out to the one doc who actually went on UpToDate in front of me to confirm what I was saying about updated standard of care instead of telling me to "stop googling" like the rest of them.
Exactly. :illuminati: me thinks it's a way for the government to carry out eugenics on addicts and/or chronic pain patients, supply them with legal opiates, then cut it off so they go on fent and die. And keep repeating the cycle
Yeah idk the stat off the top of my head but the majority of heroin and fake oxytocin all have some level of fent in them. Some more than others but it's sadly a majority. It's extremely easy to OD off fent laced shit, especially when relapsing. There is currently no easy way to test for how much fent is in something without sending it to a lab which virtually no heavy or even casual user is doing because it's costly and takes weeks
Yeah because of the opiate crackdown people are buying bunk, pressed pills that typically have fentanyl in in it or its dozens of analogous and dying much easier because the people making that stuff can fuck up the ratio extremely easily. Or people take too many because they're use to popping like 5 percs and those pills are mostly all fent.
It's extremely fucking sad, and I'm almost certain I would have died if I didn't quit doing heroin and any opiate pill I could find. A lot of people are stuck and don't have any good resources to get clean. Just criminalized or forced to quit cold turkey which has an extremely low success rate. Plus the relapse deaths too.
No it's the opposite this time. Guy couldn't get pain medication literal days after back surgery. This is like the one case where giving someone opiates is appropriate.
Also opioid overdoses have gone up even though doctors are prescribing much less of them in the USA. Almost as if this is war on drugs all over again...
Oh, I totally agree, I must not have stated my point clearly.
I agree that not giving someone drugs for fresh surgical pain is fucking horrifying. I still see the root cause as the backlash to precious over-prescription
It's more that the capitalist system goes though cycles of over prescription of opioids, followed by under prescription, depending on various factors. Never settling on a working baseline. There was a good article about that, I'll try find it soon.
I’ve been thinking about this topic lately and am specially focused on the role of doctors in both the over-prescription and how the overly conservative in Rx.
To me it seems like doctors are typically treated like they are these irrelevant, mere cogs in the system who had little or no agency. I had accepted that was how it was and didn’t really think about it.
But these are the guys making hundreds of thousands of dollars, who supposedly are some of the most dedicated and brightest individuals out there, and who go through extensive training.
As far as I’m aware there wasn’t a massive academic fraud scheme showing that OxyContin was the best opiate, wasn’t addictive, etc All the scholarly/clinical research suggested it was pretty much like any other ol opiate
Which basically means doctors didn't and still don’t actually keep up with accurate knowledge. Instead they are swayed by some ‘attractive’ former college athlete who says they are not only the smartest person they’ve ever seen but the most attractive as well - now sell oxy. (This is how it was explained to me by an academic psychiatrist)
We are suppose to excuse doctors for being easily swayed by sandwiches and ass? :spray-bottle:
(Of course Purdue or whoever is also horribly evil and makes a great example of what pure capitalist drive leads to)
This is self-evident to anyone who's ever had any sort of complex medical problem. They are usually jerks about it as well. Shout-out to the one doc who actually went on UpToDate in front of me to confirm what I was saying about updated standard of care instead of telling me to "stop googling" like the rest of them.
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Ooh please do
Well, root cause as capitalism really; direct cause for not giving the drugs is the intersection of the backlash and a lack of empathy, presumably
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Exactly. :illuminati: me thinks it's a way for the government to carry out eugenics on addicts and/or chronic pain patients, supply them with legal opiates, then cut it off so they go on fent and die. And keep repeating the cycle
:yea:
Yeah idk the stat off the top of my head but the majority of heroin and fake oxytocin all have some level of fent in them. Some more than others but it's sadly a majority. It's extremely easy to OD off fent laced shit, especially when relapsing. There is currently no easy way to test for how much fent is in something without sending it to a lab which virtually no heavy or even casual user is doing because it's costly and takes weeks
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Yeah because of the opiate crackdown people are buying bunk, pressed pills that typically have fentanyl in in it or its dozens of analogous and dying much easier because the people making that stuff can fuck up the ratio extremely easily. Or people take too many because they're use to popping like 5 percs and those pills are mostly all fent.
It's extremely fucking sad, and I'm almost certain I would have died if I didn't quit doing heroin and any opiate pill I could find. A lot of people are stuck and don't have any good resources to get clean. Just criminalized or forced to quit cold turkey which has an extremely low success rate. Plus the relapse deaths too.