• Liberalism [he/him,they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Who would win:

    • Centuries of Capitalist economic theory

    • "Oh wait you can just mislead and manipulate people lol"

    • amber2 [she/her,they/them]
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      2 years ago

      "and there you have it, under this theory capitalism will work perfectly as long as everyone is a rational actor"

      "But people aren't rational actors, they make their decisions based on emotions"

      "Oh wow that sounds way easier let's just take advantage of that"

    • barrbaric [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      The existence of marketing alone disproves the concept that a free market where everyone competes as equals can exist.

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        2 years ago

        Information is a commodity, so misinformation is just another method for the rational marketplace to price in the value of useful knowledge.

      • Liberalism [he/him,they/them]
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        2 years ago

        I meant in the sense that the usual justification is "in a free market the better product will win out, and that incentivizes innovation" but it turns out you don't actually have to make the product better you can just lie

  • KiaKaha [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    So two dozen people have maxed out their characters already?

  • 20000bannedposters [love/loves]
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    2 years ago

    The algo supposedly matches up paying players with non paying players to force the non payers to consider paying.

    I used to be really into video games and almost went into game coding as my degree. So glad i got bored with it all. Like yeah it's art. But like go touch some grass.

    My brother payed video games so much in the dark that he now as tons of eye sensitive issues

  • LGOrcStreetSamurai [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I wish these MEGACORPS were run by people who actually like playnig games rather than people who like making money. I can't imagine any designer enjoying making these sorts of systems or developers wanting to build the infrastructure to facilitate those systems.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      I wish these MEGACORPS were run by people who actually like playnig games rather than people who like making money.

      I mean... that way gets you Sony's Star Wars Online. I remember one of my friends was on that Dev Team way back in the day, and he joked that they all spent more time playing WoW than coding the game they were actually working on.

  • Yurt_Owl
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    2 years ago

    Thing that disappoints me about this is its insanely easy to just download path of exile or pirate diablo 2 and get a better experience for no money.

    • Thordros [he/him, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      I don't often say this about AAA shit, but the D2 remaster is genuinely worth paying for. It's extremely slick, and the addition of native controller support makes it play better than Diablo 3 or immortal (which sucks ass).

    • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Yeah, I can do that, but how am I supposed to experience a shittier Diablo 3 with microtransactions?

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    "IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT DON'T BUY IT, SIMPLE!" :so-true:

    Yeah, I didn't buy it. But the manipulative monetization and predatory gambling with extra steps is profitable enough to keep happening anyway. ":vote: with your wallet!" is wrecker talk.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        actually it’s okay to exploit people because that means they were dumb enough

        I was told exactly fucking that by a treat defender on Hexbear that was going to bat for gacha trash.

        • CyberSyndicalist [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          it's ok to do a grift as long as you maintain enough distance that you can assume that the victims are rich and deserve it but you conveniently never have investigate what the true source of the money you're making is.

          this is different than when imperialists distance themselves from and refuse to learn about the violence done at the periphery because in this case I'm the one who is doing it.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        TOUCH GRASS TOUCH GRASS TOUCH GRASS TOUCH GRASS TOUCH GRASS :wojak-nooo:

  • VILenin [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    G*mers will make 3 hour long video essays about microtransactions and there'll be like a week of outrage, but at the end of the day they all go :yes-honey-left: and pay up. Developers don't care about what they say, they care about what they do.

    • barrbaric [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Kind of reductive to blame the :gamer-gulag:. The mechanisms these games use are designed to psychologically manipulate people into spending money.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Some get so deeply emotionally invested in that psychological manipulation that they defend it, even on Hexbear. I had one particularly weird person stan for Star Citizen here and its thousand dollar jpegs of spaceships that have been absent from the alpha for years so far.

      • save_vs_death [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        a lot of bad shit like this happens especially in the MMO space, i think the suits know MMOs tend to attract people with addictive personalities and what are they gonna do? play the OTHER black hole game they poured 1000 hours in and in which they don't have any of the cool characters they built, shit they remember fondly, friend list, etc? yeah, not happening, they're going down with the ship

      • save_vs_death [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        i would say they're so right wing because of this, everyone going "when my megabux gaming idea will be on top then I'll be the one raking in the gorillions"

  • Sea_Gull [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    If only that money could go to indie developers (or anything aside from Blizzard) instead.

  • Thordros [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Microtransactions aside, this game also sucks and was clearly thrown together last minute with recycled assets. This abomination is more of a resource hog on my beastly gaming desktop than Diablo 3, looks like total shit, and is literally unplayable with a controller. Yea lemme navigate menus with my right control stick acting as a shit-ass mouse, instead of, you know, snapping it to the buttons like even a one-dude indie team can figure out.

    The entire leadership team of this project should be blacklisted from the industry for life.

  • ssjmarx [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    This is a lot of cash. According to Blizz in 2021 they grossed $5.1 billion in sales overall, and if Diablo Immortal can maintain this head of steam for an entire year, that will be about half a billion, bumping their revenues for 2022 by about 10%.

    But i don't think Diablo Immortal will maintain this head of steam. Unfortunately, the only way to know for sure will be when they shut the servers down - if it dies after two years then throw its corpse on the pile with the thousands of other mobile games to do so.

  • kissinger
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    edit-2
    1 year ago

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  • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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    edit-2
    2 years ago

    On the one hand, :yea:

    On the other hand, I have to wonder how much of this shit is Enron-style accounting. There are so many other rogue-likes better than Diablo at this point, and none of them cost anything close to this. How much is straw purchases designed to inflate Activision stock price on the eve of a big merger?

    • ToastGhost [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      super auto pets is fun and its purchases arent really predatory like so many mobile games are, no ads no matter what though

    • Aryuproudomenowdaddy [comrade/them]
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      edit-2
      2 years ago

      You can do the main story without spending a dime, just wouldn't recommend pvp because of the whales aoeing down entire groups.

    • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      It looks like hot trash. For mobile games, you're better off just getting an emulator and playing games from that. Playing GBA Fire Emblem games on the phone is pretty sweet if you're into SRPGs.