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This is one of those things where I don’t know who it would benefit so it makes the conspiracy less compelling. They wanted you to think it was one type of gun instead of another? Why, was this a hit job on big bump stock?
I mean, as someone in a strict gun control state, i can absolutely tell you establishment dems hate bump stocks and its definitely a target for their performative gun control. still not a compelling vid
Suppose that Stephen Paddock worked for the government and was running military hardware to terrorists as part of a "Fast and Furious" type operation. If they wanted to cover that up, then they can't admit that machine guns were used, because civilians don't have access to that kind of hardware. So they have to go with the bump stock explanation.
civilians don’t have access to that kind of hardware
:doubt: Maybe they don’t in a normal country, but I’ve seen too many youtube videos from channels called like “explosion ranch” to believe it’s that hard for an American millionaire to get access to military grade hardware. If it were revealed that Paddock had a machine gun it still wouldn’t be proof he was fed funded imo
“explosion ranch”
demolition? i don't watch his shit regularly but he seems like he's not a huge chud himself, but some of his collab channels are sus.
Yea that’s one of them, but there’s tons of copycat channels like that one. Point being it doesn’t appear that difficult to get BIGGUN in the states if you have the cash
Wealthy people in America absolutely have access to machine guns. They're expensive and require tax stamps but none of that is a barrier to the rich.
This feels like one of those things that looks super weird on the face of it but might be changed if I knew more about guns and the possible alternative explanations.
That's partly why I posted it here: so someone who knows more about guns can chime in if needed.
I'd specifically like to know if there is more than one type of bump stock and if the rate of fire is at all dependent on user technique.
Yes to both. Almost every semi auto can be bump fired too, you don't need a special stock to do it, the stock just makes it easier. It's a party trick. Most effective on older guns cuz seeing an M1 mag dump and spit the clip out in about a second is hilarious.
It relies on a loose grip allowing the gun to swing around unstabilized and therefore makes accurate fire impossible.
if there is more than one type of bump stock
of course there were. capitalism baybee
There's a few reasons why the rate of fire could be lower on video - depending on the spring strength of the buffer tube and the spring inside the bump stock, the weight of the bolt, and the loading of the bullets he used would affect this.
I can't really tell anything about the guns used in the shooting based on the sound though - it's comparing sounds recorded far closer than the gunshots in in Las Vegas shooting footage, so it's not like we can compare the sound of the different calibers too much (M240 uses the larger 7.62 cartridge whereas Paddock's bump stocks were on 5.56 caliber ARs, none of the 7.62 cal rifles he had with him had bump stocks) , though you can definitely tell that the rate of fire varies in the LV footage in a way the M240 doesn't.
From my non-gunsmith brain I would also imagine that gas tube length would also have a large bearing on the firerate, but that's probably mostly pedantic. I don't know a whole lot about the whole shooting, and I'm sure it has been analyzed to death, but if one really wanted to rule out a magazine fed gun like an AR with a bumpstock i feel like the place to start would be counting the amount of shots heard in between larger pauses
Someone claimed there were over 200 shots fired without a pause at one point, but I haven't verified that by watching the video for myself.
