I am currently working in intellectual property and it sucks major ass. Looking into going into tech for a 9-5 low stress job that won't make me want to kms; do those exist? Especially tech jobs slated for people with engineering degrees. Thanks!
Bullshit job haver here. I got hired by a local business whose management style is best described as chaotic neutral. I overachieved automating parts of my job via spreadsheet macros and showed them off to the right people and when my manager’s position opened up (our departments were always shuffling around because we were growing like mad) I was the only one left in department. By the end of the pandemic, I had automated away the entire job without telling anyone and worked just enough to keep up the act. Oddly enough, I was in constant stress between my life having no purpose and being under constant stress of feeling like I’m gonna get found out and fired. If I didn’t have a few recurring meetings each week, I could have died and no one would have noticed
My cousin tells me public sector is the way to go, less profit motive grinding you down, and things move so slow that you'll probably only work like 20 hours a week. There's plenty of "tech jobs" doing IT type stuff and comms engineering, I'm trying to get something similar myself.
Your cousin is right. I'm in the public sector and it's better than private. only thing is that my career field is so shit that even the public sector equivalent is stressful and difficult. Been applying to other fed jobs but no luck yet
Have you looked into local or regional government at all? that's what I was told
gave it a gander and couldn't find anything good but I'll keep my eyes peeled
I famously did my work study while developing a coke habit and flunking out of my program. Did a very good job at my work study duties though
I wager it probably has more to do with the place than with the job title.
If you're willing to learn about cloud technology, being the person who demos products is pretty easy (Sales Engineer)
AWS/Azure right? I'll look into that, but I'll be starting with zero concerning that stuff
Yup, the foundational stuff is free for AWS iirc. Once you've got the basics acloudguru.com is a good way to learn more for additional certifications
Software engineering can be good if you're willing to keep moving around until you get lucky. Some of them are chill (maybe a third?), especially tech departments of non-tech companies and universities. Unfortunately it's hard to get the good ones without a couple years of experience.
Try maybe getting into product management or some other bullshit middle manager job. I think they might like people working in IP.
Tech firms are tightening up their hiring though so your results may vary.
yeah I've heard that IP is transferable to product management with a heavy amount of finessing. But product management sounds pretty soul-sucking though...
Middle management is largely bullshit, but bullshit is not the same as low-effort. Graeber saws that corporate lawyers tend to identify their jobs as bullshit, but their subcategory is goons. The only reason a corporation needs an army of lawyers is to defend against other corporations’ armies of lawyers. There’s still plenty of work to be done. It’s just not work that’s fundamental to the functioning of society
Digital Marketing. Get into analytics and web maintenance at a medium sized company. No one will know what you do or how much work it takes.
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You might need to work at a shitty agency for a while to get experience that can get you to be the one digital marketer at a medium sized company.
But at that point you're pretty set.
I'd say that a downside is that it rots the soul but we're on the internet so that ship's fucking sailed
I mean, depending on what you do it's no worse than any other bullshit job. Like it doesn't have to be spamming people and shit. And we're already talking about jobs that aren't panopticon data harvesting- those are the aforementioned difficult ones.
You could be fixing a website for a supplier of societally useful goods or services.
- Making it less confusing to use
- Making new pages that explain what the business sells.
- Rewriting shitty copy.
- Making sure that Google doesn't get blocked from reading the site, so that it will show up on Google.
- organizing products into better categories so they arent all stacked into giant fuckoff pages, so people can find them
Plus you can use those simple analytical skills if you ever create some kind of media in your personal life such as left politics or hobby stuff.
Yeah, It's not bad overall if you must choose a field that probably shouldn't exist, I just think that marketing, even when it's useful, is not the only job you should do.
A life of supporting pure Rhetoric isn't healthy, and I know because I've lived it. You really have to take that free time and throw it into doing material shit.
Actual data analytics is. Looking at google reports and SEM Rush and looking smart to dumbass board members with a Datastudio dashboard is not.
I've done this before, and it was a decent gig. Everyone trusted me, and I was allowed to work on my own. Plus, a lot of it is pretty basic stuff to learn. I picked these skills up at a previous job with no experience, but it was enough for what this new company needed. I rebuilt their WordPress website, reported their Google analytics, and did some occasional troubleshooting. Some of the stuff was a little over my head, but I had enough time in between tasks to search stuff I didn't know. The pay was a little low for entry level, but it was enough to get by on.
Only thing I can think of is project management. Or a tech manager job, like an IT support manager.
EDIT: I just thought of this: Technical Writer - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technical_writer
I'll look into project management...no idea what they do but what I've gandered it seems even more soul sucking than what I do now (patent examining). I actually looked into technical writing but it seems that it's also a pretty stressful job for less pay, so nah
Idk anything about the field, but I know my partner's sister is a technical writer and makes like 120k working full remote 2 or 3 hours a day.
I am on the clock for a job adjacent to technical writing and I am laying on my couch posting on Hexbear lol
But tbf having a job where you do nothing is soul-crushing in its own way. I want to do something more productive for society. But as jobs go it's as easy as it gets. fyi @literal_moron (ps I believe u are an intelligent and thoughtful person!)
I knew some guys a few years ago who took a "management information systems" program at a big party school. Basically they took a bunch of bullshit business school courses, like one programming and math class, and were set up to leap straight into middle management and make bank by telling people with actual skills what to do
Company/organization needs a project done, they give you money and resources, and it's your job to see it thorough
Maybe if you can get a job at a big non-tech company writing some internal non-server thing or whatever, or maintaining some old thing or something idk. Can probably be stressful if it's something a bunch of people rely on to do their jobs.
whatever the hell it is I do. idk how to define it in terms of what to look for per se (I'm technically a director of software engineering and/or software achitect), but I see a ton of jobs where you can get paid a lot of money to do very little for years on end.
oh, also "agile coach" is an excellent grift to get into.
GIS - if you have a close enough degree - is fun.
Fieldwork to lab work to fabricating ruggedized equipment.
There are some cushy drafting jobs you can find. Have a co-worker who just left our small telecom engineering firm to work from home with a company based in Denmark that does drafting for the concrete caps that go on landfills. Literally drawing squares for $70k starting and they gave him $1500 to pick out an ergonomic chair.
What does working in intellectual property involve? Sounds terrible just from the title
