• Old_Barbarossa [he/him,comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Hi, China Watchers. This week we probe the impact of Chinese military threats against Taiwan on the island’s foreign business community and unpack the misogynistic subtext of China’s antipathy toward House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

    Lol

    Hi, Hexbear Watchers!

    • Teekeeus [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Anyone who has unironically identifies as a china watcher should be :gamer-gulag:

      • SoyViking [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        If you go to a quiet lake with your binoculars on an early autumn morning you can see some really beautiful flocks of chinas gathering to get ready to migrate south for the winter.

        • ifgehrehnenyissponde [he/him,they/them]
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          2 years ago

          :awooga: "So majestic!"

                          :some-controversy:  :some-controversy:  :some-controversy:  :some-controversy:  :some-controversy:  :some-controversy: 
          
    • TerminalEncounter [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      "I'm an upholder of the western order of rules and norms. Although I'm not a member of any intelligence agency or armed forces or diplomatic team, I do my part."

      "Oh yeah?"

      "Yes, I watch China. I'm ready for sex now, virgins line up on the left, red heads with DD cups on the right."

  • Mizokon [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    :doubt: idk if American capitalists have enough discipline to leave early. They'll stay as long as they can.

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    If they leave then they stop having a reason to financially influence local independence activists, seems like a good thing.

    Probably also terrified that China is now looking at the money trails of supporters of the secessionists.

    Claims that they're moving personnel to other countries are just bullshit. Maybe your executive class is moving but researchers and engineers aren't at that level and don't want to leave, they have friends and family in Taiwan and on the mainland. You can't just relocate production when you don't have the skilled workforce that exists in Taiwan.

    • ajouter [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      i imagine they'll move some of the researchers and engineers out, especially if they dont have the expertise elsewhere.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        That's up to those researches and engineers, who have friends and family in Taiwan and the mainland. People are sticky.

        • Foolio [any]
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          2 years ago

          Disagree, in big political situations like this there's plenty of dissidents. And people who work in such a Western-aligned industry, who are solidly middle class and likely to have absorbed ~Western values~ as a result are more likely to flee overseas.

          Also, the US has more than enough technical talent to make semiconductors in the US. The reason why industry gets off-shored is because making physical goods has a lower rate of profit than "services" or vaporware programming, so it pays like shit. If the US needed people, they'd raise salaries to attract people to switch.

          • Awoo [she/her]
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            2 years ago

            No, this isn't correct at all. TSMC is literally the only company in the world capable of producing semiconductors at the level they do and it's already been evaluated that moving that operation elsewhere would take at least 20 years because the knowledge the workforce has is simply not available elsewhere. This shit isn't just about moving a few workers and then training some new people to get shit done it's at the cutting edge and requires the workers that have been doing it for decades over multiple generations of the technology that understand multiple generations of the process.

            Intel, Samsung and a dozen other companies literally send all their shit to TSMC to have them do a little piece of the process that they can't do themselves. If they could do it anywhere else they absolutely would, they just can't.

            And by the time they do manage to get operations up and running at the current generation they will be 20 years behind.

            • anoncpc [comrade/them]
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              2 years ago

              Lol, he act semiconductor industry like assembly or something. It’s a high bar to get in while compensation not equal to industry like software engineer or wall street

          • anoncpc [comrade/them]
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            2 years ago

            You overestimate the technical talents the US have in semiconductor. It’s a high bar industry to get in, and you have to work in a lab, wear protective clothing since the lab have to be clean, as opposed to software engineer. High compensation, easier and you could work at home, or finance sector which has been taking talents from every industry of the US because how high the compensation is. You can’t also attract peoples just by raising salary, when the location they’re relocating might not conform their taste

        • ajouter [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          if they're important enough the amount of money they'll put in front of these people will be astronomical

      • CheGueBeara [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I think they'll fail at that but a brain drain in Taiwan over Pelosi's visit would be hilarious.

  • Kanna [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    I don't think this will have the effect they think it will

  • plov_mix [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Was there a mass exodus of firms from Hong Kong after the security law turned it into :19: :84: ?