Decades after the fall of the Soviet Union, the legacy of the Sino-Soviet split stands out sharply in the history of socialism and the Cold War as a major turning point, impacting conflicts all over the world and within the movement, the collapses of 89-91, and China's relationship with the West and embrace of foreign investment.
How do Marxists in China (inside and outside of the CPC) think of it? As justified, as a mistake, as well-intentioned but with bad consequences? What works of theory analyzes its causes, effects? And in light of China's reform and opening up, how is "revisionism", in general and as an ideological rebuke of liberalization in the post-Stalin era in particular, understood?
Any and all answers appreciated, let me know if another comm is better suited for this post.
I really don’t get the hate on Deng. He did successfully what Gorbachev tried to do. Just because China engages with capitalism does not mean it isn’t a communist country. If hexbear existed in the 1940s there would be a lot of :wojak-nooo: noooo you can’t just do socialism in one one country you have to export the revolution globally~ wait, what are you doing with that pickaxe, no don’t kill me, I’m Leon Trots-ACK!
If it wasn't for Deng, the Anglos would've weaseled their way towards keeping parts of Hong Kong that wasn't under the 99 year lease. Yep, having a part of China be a permanent British colony would've surely help further the Chinese project and not be a hotbed of Western spies and agents.
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It’s a boring argument / struggle to have and I’ve seen it play out a hundred times. Maybe I’ll make an effort post with Deng information at some point so we can link users to it.
Personally I would really appreciate that post, any information about :deng-smile: (and :china-stars: in general) is always appreciated, especially as I'm a stinky unwashed westoid with a pile of earthworms for a brain :biden-alert:
I’ll see what I can do then. Almost all information you are going to get about China in the west has been warped to the point of it being nonsense.
It’s very similar to the DPRK / North Korea in that way, very little positive press is being reported by western journalists.
We’re in the middle of a second, shittier cold war. The good news is that so far the USA is losing.
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perfect, this is exactly what I was looking for, thank you so much! :chavez-salute:
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Have we had a Deng megathread? Maybe it's time for a new one in any case.
IMO xi really is the best Chinese leader to date. He really is the best of deng and mao.