bizarre that you're reading such a statement into that. did you read the article OP linked? it's unhinged and not backed by actual policy.

also I am a proud Dengist, in case that isn't clear.

he clearly wasn't bullied enough

it's liberals when they do land acknowledgements. They admit they've been absolute demons and also they don't want to do anything about righting those injustices.

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I believe that your framing and questioning here is incorrect. The Chinese government is gradually adapting their covid policies as they have always done. They are having to balance public health with the long term stability of the country now that the most of the world has given up on attempting any sort of Covid mitigation at all.

We also agree that our media sources in the west are unreliable and actively serve imperialism. Most reporting we receive in the imperial core will be against China and provide the most negative interpretations of the country’s actions.

I am not a pathologist and I am also not actively living in China at this moment, so I can clarify my thoughts here to “do I support the CPC and the PRC as a whole?" and "Do I believe they are working in good faith to build socialism and do right by their people?”

For me, the answer to both of those questions in the last paragraph are “yes”. I hope that helps.

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Blind trust is as good as blind hatred.

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Regardless, I believe that the CPC is acting in the best interest of its people given the many points of information it has and the experts working within the party.

I also believe that their track record so far shows that the Chinese government are better equipped to make these decisions than westerners on the internet.

I’m not sure what you’re trying to prove by posting a bunch of western media sources doing what we both agreed they’re doing

I’m glad we understand each other on this part of things now and are in agreement! That is good to hear. You had been confused previously and thought I meant something else, which is why I clarified with those examples.

We appear to be miscommunicating here. Either way, I support the CPC in its decisions and trust that the people of China are being represented by their party.

I also have at no point said I support “let er rip”, neither has the CPC.

the western media is now attacking China for shifting away from zero covid, hence the Parenti quote.

The Washington Post:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/11/19/china-zero-covid-policy-restrictions-protests/

the financial times:

https://www.ft.com/content/392a603d-5f6f-4270-bec2-41e5da69cc67

the guardian:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/17/baby-death-china-incites-anger-social-media-zero-covid-rules

Unsurprisingly, western media is also using this as an excuse to harp on about xinjiang again:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-16/china-s-covid-zero-lockdown-in-xinjiang-has-just-hit-100-days

If you read the above, they’re upset that China is gradually adapting their policy and not “letting ‘er rip”, as you phrased it.

I’m literally posting Parenti emoji elsewhere, so yes, that is the point I’m making.

I trust the CPC to be handling this in the correct way that benefits the people of China.

The western media has adopted the position that people in Russia going to churches therefore we must…

hmm? I don’t understand.

certainly and it seems they are taking such an approach as best they can.

China is dealing with the beginnings of a capital strike against them if they don’t start adapting here. It took 3 years, but enough global industry has now started to mobilize against them they need to start adapting.

there is a reason trotskyists tend to eat shit everytime they get a turn at the wheel.

I am continually surprised how inflexible and petulant adherents of that tendency often are.

If the best source of your opinion is a Trotskyist website advocating for china to escalate it’s zero covid policy into a global revolution then yes, perhaps evaluate lol

Besides, most of the imperialist core’s state media have also adopted the position that china relaxing it’s zero-covid policy is now somehow bad and catastrophic, as though they were not saying the exact opposite three days ago.

It is very easy to understand why you would feel that way. The West’s approach to covid has been truly been “pro-Covid” and it is horrifying.

I’m glad to hear it! I’m sorry that reassurance came in such a harsh form at first.

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I apologize for going on the offense about this given you have family there.

The onslaught of Sinophobia on the western internet leads me to a default position of assuming negative intent.

I hope the best for China and that your family there remains in good health.

I retract my chauvinist accusation in light of this. You seem sincere. Apologies.

As always, solidarity with the people of China.

Then it sounds like we are in agreement

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Unsurprisingly, western media is also using this as an excuse to harp on about xinjiang again:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-16/china-s-covid-zero-lockdown-in-xinjiang-has-just-hit-100-days