(note: while WSWS (trot site) uses CCP instead of CPC, they generally have good takes on China and support China against US imperialism)

(note: to clarify, this article is in support of Zero-COVID and sees the lifting of the policy as a grave mistake)

(note: i do not necessarily support all the shit wsws says i am not a fucking trot)

  • VenetianMask [any]
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    2 years ago

    "well maybe if you share your opinion with someone stupid your opinion is stupid!"

    -let er rip activist

    • DengXixian [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      If the best source of your opinion is a Trotskyist website advocating for china to escalate it’s zero covid policy into a global revolution then yes, perhaps evaluate lol

      Besides, most of the imperialist core’s state media have also adopted the position that china relaxing it’s zero-covid policy is now somehow bad and catastrophic, as though they were not saying the exact opposite three days ago.

      • VenetianMask [any]
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        2 years ago

        The western media has adopted the position that people in Russia going to churches therefore we must....

        • DengXixian [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          The western media has adopted the position that people in Russia going to churches therefore we must…

          hmm? I don’t understand.

          • VenetianMask [any]
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            2 years ago

            Besides, most of the imperialist core’s state media have also adopted the position that china relaxing it’s zero-covid policy is now somehow bad and catastrophic, as though they were not saying the exact opposite three days ago.

            You're doing the Parenti quote except you've taken the opposite of the intended message.

            Besides, the 'best source of [their] opinion' isn't a trot website, it's literally every doctor in the world.

            • DengXixian [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              I’m literally posting Parenti emoji elsewhere, so yes, that is the point I’m making.

              I trust the CPC to be handling this in the correct way that benefits the people of China.

              • VenetianMask [any]
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                2 years ago

                Except you seem to have taken the exact opposite of the intended meaning of it

                In the context of you arguing in favor of Let 'Er Rip you brought up the fact that western media agrees with you now

                • DengXixian [he/him]
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                  2 years ago

                  We appear to be miscommunicating here. Either way, I support the CPC in its decisions and trust that the people of China are being represented by their party.

                  I also have at no point said I support “let er rip”, neither has the CPC.

                  the western media is now attacking China for shifting away from zero covid, hence the Parenti quote.

                  The Washington Post:

                  https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/11/19/china-zero-covid-policy-restrictions-protests/

                  the financial times:

                  https://www.ft.com/content/392a603d-5f6f-4270-bec2-41e5da69cc67

                  the guardian:

                  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/17/baby-death-china-incites-anger-social-media-zero-covid-rules

                  Unsurprisingly, western media is also using this as an excuse to harp on about xinjiang again:

                  https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-16/china-s-covid-zero-lockdown-in-xinjiang-has-just-hit-100-days

                  If you read the above, they’re upset that China is gradually adapting their policy and not “letting ‘er rip”, as you phrased it.

                  • VenetianMask [any]
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                    2 years ago

                    Blind trust is as good as blind hatred. We know, based on years of doctors telling us, what should be happening.

                    Do you think China is acting in the best interests of its elderly and immune compromised citizens by removing restrictions and letting covid spread more easily? If not, what constituency do you think gets to be 'the people' in the context of exercising political power here?

                    I'm not sure what you're trying to prove by posting a bunch of western media sources doing what we both agreed they're doing. It's entirely separate from the actual conversation and was only relevant to the degree you were using western media to validate your opinion