We need more shit like this

  • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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    5 months ago

    Australian "anti-landlord" activists are sharing information on empty properties across the country for squatters to take over and potentially steal the deeds from their original owners.

    So are these deeds like bearer bonds where they have no paper trail of the owner, and whoever physically possesses the document proclaiming ownership is legally the owner? Lmao

    • theposterformerlyknownasgood
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      5 months ago

      Squatters rights were laws passed in a lot of western countries back when you could pass a law that wasn't neoliberal number fiddling.
      Usucaption in general dates back to the Romans

      • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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        5 months ago

        Oh so the right wingers just want to embrace modernity instead of retvrning to Romvn trvdition?

        • theposterformerlyknownasgood
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          5 months ago

          Literally no retvrn guy wants any part of roman culture back. Like imagine telling one of those guys we're abolishing the police and making a public holiday only women are legally allowed to participate in. Also the rich are expected to pay for all public festivities which we're having weekly now.

          Edit: I want to be clear that ancient Rome was BAD, but it's funny just how much conservatives would hate it.

          • theposterformerlyknownasgood
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            5 months ago

            We need to bring back greco-roman social mores! Women are expected to be horny and abortion is legal until the kid is legally an adult.
            You can legally sell your kid into slavery 3 times. But not 4 that would be weird.

            • DyingOfDeBordom [none/use name]
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              5 months ago

              You can legally sell your kid into slavery 3 times. But not 4 that would be weird.

              So wait, the same kid or 3 different kids

              • theposterformerlyknownasgood
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                5 months ago

                Same kid. A person who had been sold 3 times by his pater familias (male head of the family) was no longer subject to the legal power of the pater familias. But they were if they had only been sold twice.

                  • booty [he/him]
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                    5 months ago

                    I think Roman slavery was usually like a contract thing. You're enslaved for x months/years and these are the kinds of things you can be expected to do.

                    Not an expert though.

                    • theposterformerlyknownasgood
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                      5 months ago

                      I think Roman slavery was usually like a contract thing. You're enslaved for x months/years and these are the kinds of things you can be expected to do.

                      That's Nexum, possibly. Slaves taken in pirate raids or as war booty were slaves for life, as were vernae. They could achieve freedom by various means, but it was not assumed or an inherent part of the process.

                  • theposterformerlyknownasgood
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                    5 months ago

                    If you're selling someone multiple times you're probably dealing with nexum, which would sort of be like... renting your child out I suppose. Or like using your kid as collateral? I don't really know the exact mechanics here.

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
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      5 months ago

      Basically if you inhabit and maintain an abandoned property for some number of years without the owner complaining you get ownership rights. It's why all the crumbling unused mansions in Kensington owned by Saudi princes as speculation have 24 hour human surveillance.