I was gonna say this. I guess I'm not really a "doomer" about this like in the original post because when I look out over the broadest definition of my "social circle" - idk maybe 100 people - a majority barely have any idea of what's going on. These are the people on a spectrum of "do not even really know a war is going on" to "vague notion that Russia and Ukraine are fighting". The sizeable minority are a little more aware but don't really care one way or another.
The idea that this is the "death of the left" in the US is a bridge too far IMO. Sure a lot of the radlibs (the ones who care) are all strongly pro-NATO but they were libs to begin with. They were never on our side anyway. I'd say most of the actual left knows what's up here or are at least waking up to it. Talking IRL, not online.
I was gonna say this. I guess I'm not really a "doomer" about this like in the original post because when I look out over the broadest definition of my "social circle" - idk maybe 100 people - a majority barely have any idea of what's going on. These are the people on a spectrum of "do not even really know a war is going on" to "vague notion that Russia and Ukraine are fighting". The sizeable minority are a little more aware but don't really care one way or another.
The idea that this is the "death of the left" in the US is a bridge too far IMO. Sure a lot of the radlibs (the ones who care) are all strongly pro-NATO but they were libs to begin with. They were never on our side anyway. I'd say most of the actual left knows what's up here or are at least waking up to it. Talking IRL, not online.