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Don’t even know what it’s about yet
EDIT: I know what it’s about now. My mother is very proud
Harris is a sexist gamer Vaushite, and I say that as someone who has never watched his shit it’s just a vibe I get
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Adding context to the shit storm: since this apparently isn’t widely know, I’m referring to this stuff from 2017 when he used his position of power within the community to seek to suppress allegations of sexual assault against a friend
He did apologize for it, once the angry mob began banning his content from places such as r/breadtube and his commercial interests were threatened. His apology was rejected in that final link you see the victim explain their thoughts.
10 day old account starts shit in the comments based off of nothing but a controversy that was put to bed years ago and which all parties seem to have moved on from
Back in my day, this comment would have been removed by now and the poster banned. They don't make mods like they used to!
What are you on about? I just said that all parties have moved on, and you won't achieve anything by bringing it back up. If you want to complain about him, go back to r/Breadtube. I believe his videos are still banned from there.
Edit: looks like they haven't been banned from there for a good few years actually, but they definitely were for a while.
K then, leave. Also, it's worth pointing out that this piece of internet drama was the first thing you saw when you opened up the Kiwifarms page on Hbomb. It's an ad-hom arguement I know, but when those guys bring that incident as a way of justifying their harassment of him, it should make you think twice about using it yourself. Unless you're a wrecker, which at this point I'm fairly sure you are.
So far the arguments I’ve seen here are what you admit is a pure ad hom and you write it anyway, “it was just one time”, and “wrecker” or some variant of that which is a personal attack that intentionally avoids the issue.
So all shit arguments. Garbage.
Shameful defense of this behavior which should never be defended.
I’ll end this conversation but I’m not so petty as to assume everyone on this site is as comfortable with sexual assault as you are.
Even though you pretend to speak for them you actually only speak for yourself.
Rather I think it’s more likely you are refusing to treat this particular person as you would others because you enjoy his content which is a specifically individual flaw in you that I won’t ascribe to others.
Hopefully you reconsider your approach since what you’re doing here is exactly what Hollywood did to Harvey Weinstein.
Zero tolerance is the only correct approach. Hopefully you learn that once you’ve had the chance to reflect.
@Everyone reading this thread - I recommend that everyone here, especially cis straight dudes, go read this first link (copy), because that is exactly how a well-meaning person ends up perpetuating rape culture. Harris says the right things in the first two images, and then immediately dives into a hole of second-guessing the victim's memories, then makes the problem about himself, and never backs out from this hole. Harris is wrong here, and he is wrong in a way that you, whoever is reading this, can very easily be.
@420stalin69 - In the future, lead with the actual information in question, instead of weird shit-flinging about gossip you heard second-hand. It's clear from the way that you've handled this that your goal here isn't to actually help victims, but rather to get points for having the juiciest dish against a semi-famous name. Healthy people do not spend their time searching for the latest way that some youtuber they've never watched has shit themselves, and you should not expect everyone to know that hbomberguy has done something wrong five years ago. If you lead with just the facts, we'd have a lot less random shitflinging and a lot more productive introspection in this thread.
That was actually my memory of it, some discord sexual harassment because my memory was vague, but actually no it was supporting a friend accused of sexual assault just because he was a friend and using his position within the community to suppress allegations of sexual harassment.
So not Harvey Weinstein shit but still that same Hollywood shit of using power to suppress knowledge of Harvey Weinstein. That’s what he did, Lindsey Lohan rising to the defense of Harvey Weinstein. A Ben Affleck who knew about it but used his power to protect it.
If those are his instincts then we should have cancelled him harder.
I read your tumblr thing and his friend was accused of potentially having planned a sexual assault and then reacting with invective when the woman backed out at a red flag. That is not the same thing as having done a sexual assault as this allegation is primarily about what someone might have but ultimately never had an opportunity to do. There is a degree of guesswork involved.
Very obviously someone backing out due to red flags is valid and them not wanting to interact with the creepy person especially after they called them a bitch is equally valid. But might have wanted to and did are not things that can be casually conflated
It should happen at an early stage, when presented with wrong doing and you’ve had a moment to reflect then you recognize bad behavior and apologize.
Instead of waiting for it to threaten your commercial interests then apologizing.
It’s just so fucking easy to have the “correct” opinions on things if you wait for the direction of community opinion to be firmly established, which summarizes basically his entire career if we are being honest about it.
His apology would have been meaningful if it happened before outrage in the community threatened to eject him from his privileged position within it.
Do you think apology’s are meaningful when they only come after intense backlash or do you think that’s called covering your ass like a coward?
In January 2019, hbomberguy hosted a 57 hour DK64 playthrough charity stream for transgender youth in the UK. He raised $340,000 for Mermaids, a charity organization that advocates for transgender youth in the UK. Some of the guests who appeared on the charity stream include Natalie Wynn of ContraPoints, Chelsea Manning, Riley Dennis, Casey Explosion, Shaun of youtube, Abigail Thorn of Philosophy Tube, Three Arrows, Jim Sterling, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC), Adam Conover of Adam Ruins Everything, Virgil Texas and Matt Christman, Grant Kirkhope (composed music for DK64 and voice of Donkey Kong), Chuck Tingle (erotica author), Mara Wilson (child actor in Matilda), John Romero (co-designer of DOOM), Adam Savage of Mythbusters, Cher (Musician).
And Harvey Weinstein’a charitable giving emphasized victims of sexual violence.
It’s a mistake to assume public displays are indicative of character since doing it on stream already means it’s performative in nature.
He probably is good to trans people, at least I have no reason to doubt that, but what I do know is he has a history of using his position to protect his friends even when they’re accused of sexual assault and I’m surprised to learn he wasn’t canceled back in 2017 but I don’t keep up with bread tube.
No I’m not. You’re trying to abstract into gibberish to avoid confronting the fact your favorite streamer has a history of using his power within that community to suppress sexual assault allegations against his friends.
Refusing to address that while being petty about it with “touch some grass” and “read theory” is just the breadtube gamer equivalent of that same gamer shit.
Canceling media figures who suppress sexual assault allegations against their friends is “psychotic epistemology” lmao take yourself off your own pedestal.
Refusing to address that while being petty about it with “touch some grass” and “read theory” is just the breadtube gamer equivalent of that same gamer shit.
Harris is a sexist gamer Vaushite, and I say that as someone who has never watched his shit it’s just a vibe I get
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Adding context to the shit storm: since this apparently isn’t widely know, I’m referring to this stuff from 2017 when he used his position of power within the community to seek to suppress allegations of sexual assault against a friend
http://titleknown.tumblr.com/post/158830082972/jonjafarifanclub-dicksweredinner-hey-yall
https://i.imgur.com/G6zkiBg.png
https://archive.is/tfn53
He did apologize for it, once the angry mob began banning his content from places such as r/breadtube and his commercial interests were threatened. His apology was rejected in that final link you see the victim explain their thoughts.
Back in my day, this comment would have been removed by now and the poster banned. They don't make mods like they used to!
Back in my day leftists didn’t support people like this.
Honestly I hadn’t heard about this guy in 5 years and I’m actually shocked you’re all supporting him.
And the defense is “it was just one time” as though that’s a defense.
What’s wrong with you all? The YouTube popularity contest has given you brain worms.
What are you on about? I just said that all parties have moved on, and you won't achieve anything by bringing it back up. If you want to complain about him, go back to r/Breadtube. I believe his videos are still banned from there.
Edit: looks like they haven't been banned from there for a good few years actually, but they definitely were for a while.
Rare Reddit W over hexbear in that case
Shameful
K then, leave. Also, it's worth pointing out that this piece of internet drama was the first thing you saw when you opened up the Kiwifarms page on Hbomb. It's an ad-hom arguement I know, but when those guys bring that incident as a way of justifying their harassment of him, it should make you think twice about using it yourself. Unless you're a wrecker, which at this point I'm fairly sure you are.
So far the arguments I’ve seen here are what you admit is a pure ad hom and you write it anyway, “it was just one time”, and “wrecker” or some variant of that which is a personal attack that intentionally avoids the issue.
So all shit arguments. Garbage.
Shameful defense of this behavior which should never be defended.
Shame on you.
this is how you started the conversation. what are we supposed to be angry at again?
Alright, so I guess you'll be leaving now then?
I’ll end this conversation but I’m not so petty as to assume everyone on this site is as comfortable with sexual assault as you are.
Even though you pretend to speak for them you actually only speak for yourself.
Rather I think it’s more likely you are refusing to treat this particular person as you would others because you enjoy his content which is a specifically individual flaw in you that I won’t ascribe to others.
Hopefully you reconsider your approach since what you’re doing here is exactly what Hollywood did to Harvey Weinstein.
Zero tolerance is the only correct approach. Hopefully you learn that once you’ve had the chance to reflect.
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@Everyone reading this thread - I recommend that everyone here, especially cis straight dudes, go read this first link (copy), because that is exactly how a well-meaning person ends up perpetuating rape culture. Harris says the right things in the first two images, and then immediately dives into a hole of second-guessing the victim's memories, then makes the problem about himself, and never backs out from this hole. Harris is wrong here, and he is wrong in a way that you, whoever is reading this, can very easily be.
@420stalin69 - In the future, lead with the actual information in question, instead of weird shit-flinging about gossip you heard second-hand. It's clear from the way that you've handled this that your goal here isn't to actually help victims, but rather to get points for having the juiciest dish against a semi-famous name. Healthy people do not spend their time searching for the latest way that some youtuber they've never watched has shit themselves, and you should not expect everyone to know that hbomberguy has done something wrong five years ago. If you lead with just the facts, we'd have a lot less random shitflinging and a lot more productive introspection in this thread.
I honestly thought this was a well known thing which is why I approached it this way. Was not expecting a massive explosion.
Feedback accepted however. It was 5 years ago you’re right. I should have led with the goods instead of assuming it was known.
I’ll stop replying to anything.
Great way to handle feedback.
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yeah he’s not, but I’m not going to invalidate a cherished headcanon
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He did flirt with vaush and he does have a sex harassment scandal and he is a gamer
But thank you for respecting head canon
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This shit
https://titleknown.tumblr.com/post/158830082972/jonjafarifanclub-dicksweredinner-hey-yall
Last I heard we cancelled him for this shit
who is "we"? What is "cancelled"? weird how you started a conversation with
then revealed that you actually know way more about him than the rest of us because you keep up with the tiresome breadtube drama
Oh I thought you were saying Hbomb sexually harassed someone.
That was actually my memory of it, some discord sexual harassment because my memory was vague, but actually no it was supporting a friend accused of sexual assault just because he was a friend and using his position within the community to suppress allegations of sexual harassment.
So not Harvey Weinstein shit but still that same Hollywood shit of using power to suppress knowledge of Harvey Weinstein. That’s what he did, Lindsey Lohan rising to the defense of Harvey Weinstein. A Ben Affleck who knew about it but used his power to protect it.
If those are his instincts then we should have cancelled him harder.
I read your tumblr thing and his friend was accused of potentially having planned a sexual assault and then reacting with invective when the woman backed out at a red flag. That is not the same thing as having done a sexual assault as this allegation is primarily about what someone might have but ultimately never had an opportunity to do. There is a degree of guesswork involved.
Very obviously someone backing out due to red flags is valid and them not wanting to interact with the creepy person especially after they called them a bitch is equally valid. But might have wanted to and did are not things that can be casually conflated
https://web.archive.org/web/20170416083507/https://hbomberguy.tumblr.com/post/159210444691/an-apology
This is the apology that he posted.
Apologizing after the angry mob let’s you know you’re wrong doesn’t mean shit. That’s just PR.
okay then how do you think apologies should work. they should be made before finding out people are upset by something you've done?
It should happen at an early stage, when presented with wrong doing and you’ve had a moment to reflect then you recognize bad behavior and apologize.
Instead of waiting for it to threaten your commercial interests then apologizing.
It’s just so fucking easy to have the “correct” opinions on things if you wait for the direction of community opinion to be firmly established, which summarizes basically his entire career if we are being honest about it.
His apology would have been meaningful if it happened before outrage in the community threatened to eject him from his privileged position within it.
Do you think apology’s are meaningful when they only come after intense backlash or do you think that’s called covering your ass like a coward?
In January 2019, hbomberguy hosted a 57 hour DK64 playthrough charity stream for transgender youth in the UK. He raised $340,000 for Mermaids, a charity organization that advocates for transgender youth in the UK. Some of the guests who appeared on the charity stream include Natalie Wynn of ContraPoints, Chelsea Manning, Riley Dennis, Casey Explosion, Shaun of youtube, Abigail Thorn of Philosophy Tube, Three Arrows, Jim Sterling, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC), Adam Conover of Adam Ruins Everything, Virgil Texas and Matt Christman, Grant Kirkhope (composed music for DK64 and voice of Donkey Kong), Chuck Tingle (erotica author), Mara Wilson (child actor in Matilda), John Romero (co-designer of DOOM), Adam Savage of Mythbusters, Cher (Musician).
She's also bizarrely Ben Shapiro's cousin and grew up with him. It's great how much she seems to dislike him.
This was the last time I really felt like we could change the world ngl
:virgil-phone: :matt:
And Harvey Weinstein’a charitable giving emphasized victims of sexual violence.
It’s a mistake to assume public displays are indicative of character since doing it on stream already means it’s performative in nature.
He probably is good to trans people, at least I have no reason to doubt that, but what I do know is he has a history of using his position to protect his friends even when they’re accused of sexual assault and I’m surprised to learn he wasn’t canceled back in 2017 but I don’t keep up with bread tube.
Edit: oh and the bold text right
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Typical gamer outrage when you come after their favorite streamer
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No I’m not. You’re trying to abstract into gibberish to avoid confronting the fact your favorite streamer has a history of using his power within that community to suppress sexual assault allegations against his friends.
Refusing to address that while being petty about it with “touch some grass” and “read theory” is just the breadtube gamer equivalent of that same gamer shit.
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One time is enough especially since we don’t know if there were other times. It’s certainly fitting a mould of public personalities doing this muck.
And he didn’t apologize until it threatened his income stream.
Don’t play this dumb team sports game. People who do that should be removed from pedestals. End of story.
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Canceling media figures who suppress sexual assault allegations against their friends is “psychotic epistemology” lmao take yourself off your own pedestal.
which friend
which allegations
you started the conversation like this:
you never mentioned these allegations until further down in the conversation
You were literally being incoherent
Give me solid citations for your accusation.
There’s a tumblr link here somewhere with the screen caps.
He's breadtube, having socdem politics is the norm
Idk about the other stuff though