My only argument is that glorifying John Brown was just one aspect of the ban. There was a lot more going on which "technically" broke the rules, and we should be prepared to answer for it and defend it. There were the landlord memes as well.
Ultimately I think what did us in was was the BLM protests and our refusal to clamp down on revolutionary discussion. We got banned for "hate" and "promoting violence," but at worst we were just talking about the self defence of oppressed communities. Self defence entails violence. It was our tenacity and lack of hesitation to side with the freedom fighters resisting oppression by whatever means they had at their disposal which lead to us getting banned.
The John Brown memes were a marvellous PR coup, but no one really gives a shit about an abolitionist who died 150 years ago (except nerds like us). We were banned because we wouldn't get with the program with regards to events that were happening at the current moment. We were banned for openly celebrating the people's ability to frustrate the forces of state oppression in realtime.
And I don't know the inner-workings of Reddit... but just from my average poster POV it really does seem like the John Brown stuff is what did us in. That's sort of the event directly traceable to the eventual ban. Out of curiosity, after a sub is quarantined, has there ever been a circumstance where it's been "un-quarantined"?
Seems like the Reddit higher-ups plan all along was to quarantine - with no intention of re-opening - and ban the sub at an advantageous time to them. If the quarantine discouraged new users, then that was just a bonus. Just a theory.
My only argument is that glorifying John Brown was just one aspect of the ban. There was a lot more going on which "technically" broke the rules, and we should be prepared to answer for it and defend it. There were the landlord memes as well.
Ultimately I think what did us in was was the BLM protests and our refusal to clamp down on revolutionary discussion. We got banned for "hate" and "promoting violence," but at worst we were just talking about the self defence of oppressed communities. Self defence entails violence. It was our tenacity and lack of hesitation to side with the freedom fighters resisting oppression by whatever means they had at their disposal which lead to us getting banned.
The John Brown memes were a marvellous PR coup, but no one really gives a shit about an abolitionist who died 150 years ago (except nerds like us). We were banned because we wouldn't get with the program with regards to events that were happening at the current moment. We were banned for openly celebrating the people's ability to frustrate the forces of state oppression in realtime.
And I don't know the inner-workings of Reddit... but just from my average poster POV it really does seem like the John Brown stuff is what did us in. That's sort of the event directly traceable to the eventual ban. Out of curiosity, after a sub is quarantined, has there ever been a circumstance where it's been "un-quarantined"?
Seems like the Reddit higher-ups plan all along was to quarantine - with no intention of re-opening - and ban the sub at an advantageous time to them. If the quarantine discouraged new users, then that was just a bonus. Just a theory.