This is going to sound like a flippant question, but it's sincere, how much porn do you consume? Do you, or did you ever spend a lot of time on the internet viewing pornography? You don't have to answer, but if you are consuming a lot of porn, you should stop and access therapy if you're able. Even if you did previously, but no longer do, therapy is probably a good idea. I've never met an incel that didn't have a dysfunctional relationship with their sexuality, and usually it's because of porn.
Sex work in the abstract vs. Sex work under capitalism is an important distinction to people, so lots of leftists have different takes on pornography because of this. I think porn made under capitalism is awful, and whether it's liberatory to some people does not offset the massive problem it is for most women involved. It is also socially different from other work because you won't lose most jobs if it came to light you worked in a factory or as a plumber, but you can lose a job if your boss finds out you were in porn. So it's a tricky topic.
It's not that porn is a moral hazard, but that most porn under capitalism is designed to be as addictive as possible, and propagates the dominant patriarchal attitudes toward sex. The criticism that porn makes people more misogynist is no different from the criticism that social media algorithms funnel people toward right wing content.
It's possible to consume porn healthily even under capitalism, but a porn addiction is a surprisingly prevalent issue. If you're spending significant amounts of time every day exposing yourself to the sexist attitudes of mainstream porn that's going to affect how you see the world.
There's a defnitely people who treat it as a weird moral thing though, especially among chuds and SWERFs. I think it's important for leftists to offer a counter narrative and show that porn isn't the problem, it's just (as always) capitalism making it as exploitative as possible.
I watch it all the time. I haven't had a meaningful relationship with a woman in like 4 years. I don't want to blame porn entirely because It can be a useful tool for a healthy sexuality, but I will say it almost had me viewing woman as sex objects with wanton lust before I caught myself and told myself I was becoming fucked in the head.
Pretty insightful question honestly. You seem to have hit the nail partway on the head.
This world we live in has us all feeling isolated and alone. I'm not saying porn is bad or evil in and of itself, but it can contribute to some unhealthy attitudes towards women. It's probably something you should put away for now, though. Go out and connect with people. Hopefully you can find some folks in your area doing mutual aid. The best thing for you right now is to be part of a community out in the real world.
This is going to sound like a flippant question, but it's sincere, how much porn do you consume? Do you, or did you ever spend a lot of time on the internet viewing pornography? You don't have to answer, but if you are consuming a lot of porn, you should stop and access therapy if you're able. Even if you did previously, but no longer do, therapy is probably a good idea. I've never met an incel that didn't have a dysfunctional relationship with their sexuality, and usually it's because of porn.
^^^ THIS
porn causes SO MANY problems and dysfunctional views toward women are one of them. OP read https://easypeasymethod.org/ to help quit
Ayy I'm glad easpypeasy is gaining traction. Porn normalization needs to go
where do you people come from
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Right? Suddenly we have a bunch of nofappers?
On the one hand, we’re a very excepting bunch.
On the other hand, there are now apparently nofappers here.
Sex work in the abstract vs. Sex work under capitalism is an important distinction to people, so lots of leftists have different takes on pornography because of this. I think porn made under capitalism is awful, and whether it's liberatory to some people does not offset the massive problem it is for most women involved. It is also socially different from other work because you won't lose most jobs if it came to light you worked in a factory or as a plumber, but you can lose a job if your boss finds out you were in porn. So it's a tricky topic.
i don't mean criticisms of the porn industry, i mean treating porn like a moral hazard like are we catholic now
i think it's really funny that all the blurbs on that self help pdf are from redditors and 4channers tho
It's not that porn is a moral hazard, but that most porn under capitalism is designed to be as addictive as possible, and propagates the dominant patriarchal attitudes toward sex. The criticism that porn makes people more misogynist is no different from the criticism that social media algorithms funnel people toward right wing content.
It's possible to consume porn healthily even under capitalism, but a porn addiction is a surprisingly prevalent issue. If you're spending significant amounts of time every day exposing yourself to the sexist attitudes of mainstream porn that's going to affect how you see the world.
There's a defnitely people who treat it as a weird moral thing though, especially among chuds and SWERFs. I think it's important for leftists to offer a counter narrative and show that porn isn't the problem, it's just (as always) capitalism making it as exploitative as possible.
I mean I am catholic
not that there's anything wrong with that
I watch it all the time. I haven't had a meaningful relationship with a woman in like 4 years. I don't want to blame porn entirely because It can be a useful tool for a healthy sexuality, but I will say it almost had me viewing woman as sex objects with wanton lust before I caught myself and told myself I was becoming fucked in the head.
Pretty insightful question honestly. You seem to have hit the nail partway on the head.
This world we live in has us all feeling isolated and alone. I'm not saying porn is bad or evil in and of itself, but it can contribute to some unhealthy attitudes towards women. It's probably something you should put away for now, though. Go out and connect with people. Hopefully you can find some folks in your area doing mutual aid. The best thing for you right now is to be part of a community out in the real world.