I want to state up first I get it, I'm on the right side, most of these men are awful, and every man-o-sphere influence is awful. Andrew Tate belongs in a 6 foot deep hole, or a hole in the back of his head. Joe Rogan should be sent to the Hague.

But when dudes complain, even about genuine issues, we have a tendency to just attack them for it. If a guy complains that being short can kinda suck (and it can. More so than just getting girls, it can hurt your career and everything.) People, even leftists, tend to just call them a sad manlet or something. Same thing with dudes complaining they can't get a girlfriend, are they not alienated under capitalism? I'm not saying we have to coddle the incels, but we could do better at presenting a future, a better one, maybe?

The discourse about height, and dick size, are both stupid but here (in this safe space) can I admit that there's a point to both? They affect people, it's a real thing.

And back to the Joe Rogan's, I feel bad that men and boys get sucked into that. I have some pity for them, these desperate losers.

Anyways, Im sure I'm going to think this is dumb, but I just can't help but feel like there's a gigantic community of extremely disaffected people that while I mostly loathe, I also really feel bad for. I don't think it would've taken much to push me there, I grew up in a good environment with some good role models, but without that, left to the wolves, I'm as susceptible to the grifters as everyone is.

  • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    My brother was in a group chat of twitter people and tried to explain his issues and was then told his issues don't matter because he is a man. This chat was a bunch of teenagers, but it has fucked him and still impacts him.

    • D3FNC [any]
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      2 years ago

      This was honestly an invaluable lesson. Nobody gives a shit about men when we have real problems. Most of the women in our lives weaponize the slightest hint of weakness against us. Man loses their job? Divorced. It's fucking rough out here, which is why we're killing ourselves. Because if we say anything all we get is either crickets, or a full ration of shit about everyone else having it harder.