• amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml
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    5 months ago

    Has the US ever known how to fight on mostly equal footing? Serious question. Thinking over if there's ever been a time it could be argued it fought on such a level and won.

    • SadArtemis@lemmygrad.ml
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      5 months ago

      IMO the American revolutionary war, 1812, and the civil war counted as "equal footing" wars. But that leaves almost 200 years since the last experience. Ever since then, the US has never really experienced the proper taste of war- mainly, they've just experienced inflicting it on others. Even in the world wars they were largely untouched.

      • Finiteacorn@lemmygrad.ml
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        5 months ago

        1812 was on equal footing but i doubt they got much experience beyond a deep understanding of how to get their asses kicked.

        • REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml
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          5 months ago

          In both world wars the USA enjoyed much larger industrial capacity (which was never under any serious thread) and fleet power (multiple times that of the entire axis) against its enemies. Not to forget the excellent continental island position the US is in. The Empire of Japan was ground to dust, with much of its army not able to face the US because of the invasion of China. In Europe the US faced depleted armies, the USSR received most military attention of the european axis powers.

          In WW1 the US only joined when the central powers were already depleted.

        • SadArtemis@lemmygrad.ml
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          5 months ago

          Can we call wars where the US mainland was completely untouched and its foes had no means of doing so "equal footing?" Not to mention the US arrived late to both wars, facing off a Germany that more than had its hands full (and was facing severe resource shortages) both times, and a Japan that was suffering severe resource shortages and had most of its military focused on China...

    • REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml
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      5 months ago

      Not since Vietnam. And much of that also was not on equal footing.

      So maybe Korea is a better example. But neither the DPRK nor PRC had much in the way of an Airforce.

      Then it's propably WW2, in which the USSR did most of the fighting. And the Axis airforce being depleted already from fighting the brits and USSR when the Yanks made landfall in Europe. Once could argue that Japan was a peer force back then, but that would ignore the discrepancy in industrial capacity and fleet strength in which the US overshadowed the Empire of Japan at all times. It would also have to ignore the fact that most of the IJA was bound fighting in China and not against the Yanks in the pacific.

      CLearly not WW1, the US joined the fray in 1917 against the depleted central powers.

      Honestly, the last time was propably 1821 and it ended with the White House getting burned down.

  • الأرض ستبقى عربية@lemmygrad.ml
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    5 months ago

    "insurgents"

    the words they choose to demonize resistance to the US-led invasions.

    The veteran said that a lot of foreign fighters have come to Ukraine expecting the same advantages they have had in previous conflicts and that many have been killed as a result of having the "wrong mindset."

    sicko-yes