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hopefully it will be the final one

probably not, rick and morty is a huge merchandise empire

  • 99LuftBalloons [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Has anyone really watched much past season 3? I quit after :pickle-liz: and after that I have literally never thought of it unprompted.

    Funny how that episode made it go from one of my favorite series to complete memory-hole.

      • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        and a larger focus on how it doesnt matter what he feels, because the multiverse

        an objectively stupid take. You're here and you matter for who and what you are. You could add in a million people just like you and each of them would matter. People are non-fungible

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          People are non-fungible

          It bewilders me how many times I've had to argue something like that to pop nihilists of varying sorts.

            • UlyssesT [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              My take is that some people are so selfish and self absorbed and solipstistic that it feels like a threat if they aren't personally exceptional enough compared to other people that otherwise did nothing to harm or even hinder them.

          • corgiwithalaptop [any, love/loves]
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            2 years ago

            People are non-fungible

            Isn't this like....a basic tenant of leftism? Fucking sucks that people don't understand this.

            • UlyssesT [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              It gets blurry sometimes, especially from reductionistic pop nihilist types that say stuff like the machines are at least as worthy as the mere human "meat puppets" being replaced or even destroyed by them.

              Disclaimer: I'm not saying machines doing work is bad. I'm saying that people that use sophistry to explain why people shouldn't even push back when capitalism fucks people over with machines that could have instead made their lives better are bad.

              • corgiwithalaptop [any, love/loves]
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                2 years ago

                So, I'm not smart enough to really understand what 'non-fungible' means, so I took "people are non-funglible" to basically more or less mean "people are good and I love them." That, to me, seems a basic tenant of leftism.

                • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                  2 years ago

                  What it means is that people shouldn't be seen as interchangeable, redundant, or disposable just because there are other people that can ostensibly take their place, or something "superior" to them for that matter.

                  “people are good and I love them.”

                  That probably is as far as you need to go. :avoheart:

          • UlyssesT [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            so who cares

            Roiland doesn't care and therefore the smartest and most powerful man in the universe doesn't care. No one should care! GET SCHWIFTY! :so-true:

      • HornyOnMain
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        2 years ago

        The dumb parody episodes where the entire point was just “hey look at how dumb and overdone these tropes are in this genre of tv, and how above it we are” were the real low part of the show for me, especially since they keep happening. They literally watch like slightly better written cinema sins videos

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          “hey look at how dumb and overdone these tropes are in this genre of tv, and how above it we are”

          :spidermanpointing1: :spidermanpointing2:

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        “nothing matters if theres a multiverse”

        The implication that things only matter if there's a specific and limited exclusive set of them is like NFT brain with extra steps.

          • UlyssesT [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Maybe the reason Rick Sanchez is such a farcically plot armored ego insert power fantasy character for Justin Roiland is he needed to make the smartest and bestest exceptional version of how he sees himself, superior and above the NPCs or whatever, so very unique.

            Yes yes "Council of Ricks" and all that, but that's just the old techbro belief that only the very special ought to rule everyone else.

            • ChestRockwell [comrade/them, any]
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              2 years ago

              I mean the old Peter O Toole/Orson Welles bit about Shakespeare playing the ghost rings true. The great artists know not to take the lead role but instead some role that sells the illusion/sets the stage for the lead.

              Immature artists like Roliand and Lin Manuel cast themselves as leads since they can't imagine receding into the background (as great authors and artists do).

              • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                I wholeheartedly agree. It's in very bad taste and a sign of arrogance and hubris to not only have a blatant ego insert but to make that ego insert that plot armored and awesome and amazing while being the main character.

                • ChestRockwell [comrade/them, any]
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                  2 years ago

                  I mean negative capability exists (i.e. we can always read "against" Rick or these other self inserts since there are other characters).

                  But the degree of self inserts just makes that so hard. Susan Sarandon as the therapist is right, but the show keeps screaming Pickle Rick....

                  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                    2 years ago

                    (i.e. we can always read “against” Rick

                    From what others tell me, including here, the show reads "against" Rick less and less over time as it is. :disgost:

                    • 99LuftBalloons [none/use name]
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                      2 years ago

                      The show never really read against him in the first place. Despite all the opposition Rick gets, his philosophy and viewpoint always turn out to be right in the end.

                      The closest they get is showing Rick as sad but even then it plays into the self-felating "tragic smart guy" who isn't understood by the sheeple around him.

                    • ChestRockwell [comrade/them, any]
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                      2 years ago

                      Yeah again, it's immature art, since the mature artist isn't concerned with making sure people read things exactly right (think of Verhoeven GOD and chuds reading Starship Troopers as rah rah - granted in that case they're telling on themselves a bit..)

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        and a larger focus on how it doesnt matter what he feels, because the multiverse

        This was a non-starter for me. What kind of :brainworms: are behind the notion?

        If there were multiple universes in infinite combinations and presumably alternate versions of someone because infinity is weird that way, it simply does not follow to me that an individual in any specific universe suddenly "doesn't matter" and that their existence is somehow invalid and/or disposable.

        Sure, if a pop nihilistic edgelord like Rich Sanchez or Justin Roiland had the means to harm that specific universe to power his car or get access to treats or something that would of course be bad, but the narrative stating "these lives don't matter because multiverse" is just :brainworms: to me, even if multiverses existed and worked somewhat like that.

        • Leon_Grotsky [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          It wasn't a non-starter for me, because there's an interesting critique you can make about this perspective.

          but like what @LegaliiizeIt said it became over time apparent there was no actual critique being made.

          • UlyssesT [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            I should clarify that the idea could be interesting but the whole thing was subjectively a non-starter for me because of the pop nihilistic spectacles and ranting from Roiland himself throughout the presentation. The show itself was a non-starter each and every time well meaning friends insisted that this clip or that clip would pull me in in a way that the first episode and/or "haha what if Doc Brown but :libertarian-alert: " pilot didn't.

        • culpritus [any]
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          2 years ago

          this is the basically the edgelord version of Rocko's basilisk and 'effective altruism' which are both just doing eugenics with extra steps - so just a multiverse of bazinga chuds all the way down

    • LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      It definitely got worse but I still watched. its such a small amount of time and I can pirate an entire season in like 5 minutes so I've typically waited until I remember "oh yeah, another season came out" about 6 months after the fact, then watch them in a couple days.

      my life will not be affected in any form or fashion if the show dropped off the face of the earth.

    • CommunistBear [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      As soon as they made it the slightest bit more difficult to watch than showing it for free on the adult swim website, I stopped :shrug-outta-hecks:

    • mittens [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      what did me in was that episode which tries to parody heist movies (but in particular ocean's eleven which hasn't been culturally releveant in nearly a decade) where everyone kept repeating "you son of a bitch i'm in" . i couldn't tell if it was making fun of the audience for liking this sort of lowbrow comedic repetition stuff or if it was playing it straight and the audience can't tell that this is on the same level as big bang theory sheldon banging on penny's door with his robotic "penny penny penny" calls every episode.

    • Cherufe [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      The last season was pretty good except for a few episodes. Seasons 4 and 5 were pretty rough