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Shut the fuck up cracker
Chinese communists have fought harder and organized on a larger scale than has been accomplished anywhere else. The Chinese revolution should be lauded for it's enduring capability and adaptability in the face of overwhelming violence and pressure from the imperial countries. Has your country raised hundreds of millions out of poverty, has your movement shown itself to be capable of overwhelming historical class relations and creating a new society for better or for worse? No? Then shut the fuck up lmao.
Disagree with some things? Great! Take what lessons are useful and learn from the mistakes of the Chinese revolution, however, this debate of "is China socialist" is befitting of only children or liberals.
Clout chasing ass. No wonder he's trying so hard to build an insular community around solely himself, atleast that's what it looks like from the outside.
S4A thinks the Belt and Road initiative is just imperialist development/empire building and that in due time China will follow the steps of other major imperialists like the US.
French companies in Senegal don't pay taxes to Senegal at all if you want to get a sense of what actually existing imperialism in Africa looks like.
okay sure fine it's not socialist, so what?
Pretty much my mindset nowadays. Okay so it's proven that China is, objectively, without a shadow of a doubt not socialist... so what does that change? What do they expect people to do about it? Condemn China in it's entirety? Support the U.S. in its struggle against "Chinese imperialism" or what.
What would change is that these kinds of people could feel more like underdog hipsters they so desperately want to be.
I'd have to really read on this. But I feel like a lot of arguments against china always boil down to comparisons to the soviet union. They are two very different beasts. I will read through this at work and maybe revise my opinion
Edit: I don't think I agree with this. It feels like the sole focus is put on "here's what china did" and "here's what the soviet union did". I probably can't directly argue about what's been said but I will research some more and put my thoughts down.
The PRC has experienced unprecedented economic growth while more or less dodging the boom-bust cycle, but losers want to attribute their unprecedented economic growth to capitalism and wonder why nobody wants to give socialism a chance lol. The British empire practically colonized the entire world, but they still weren't able to escape the boom-bust cycle. I guess China capitalists have big brains and summon the spirit of even bigger brain Confucius to escape the boom-bust cycle through interest from a bunch of infrastructure loans.
What if I told you capitalism is actually not that great in economic development and that the main reason why Western countries were able to economically develop has more to do with colonialism than capitalism?
China does have a boom-bust cycle now https://kanebridgenews.com/chinas-40-year-boom-is-over-what-comes-next/
Signs of trouble extend beyond China’s dismal economic data to distant provinces, including Yunnan in the southwest, which recently said it would spend millions of dollars to build a new Covid-19 quarantine facility, nearly the size of three football fields, despite China having ended its “zero-Covid” policy months ago, and long after the world moved on from the pandemic.
Building a quarantine facility to handle Covid means your economy is down the shitter while no longer keeping track of Covid cases means your economy is booming.
While the claim may have merit, it requires more evidence than a WaPo article. The following paragraph is, I think, interesting.
What will the future look like? The International Monetary Fund puts China’s GDP growth at below 4% in the coming years, less than half of its tally for most of the past four decades. Capital Economics, a London-based research firm, figures China’s trend growth has slowed to 3% from 5% in 2019, and will fall to around 2% in 2030.
Stop the presses!!! Less than 4% yoy growth 😱??? This still far exceeds American growth. This article is old enough that updated data may have been released to confirm the authors' conclusions, so, to make a claim like that meritously it might be worth doing that and engaging with the data outside of a newspaper which is owned by one of the richest men in the world and based in the capital of the world's most brutal and extractive empire which benefit from anti-communist propaganda. I don't say this to dismiss any possibility of economic slowdown however, merely that the burden of proof on this is higher than WaPo.
I already didn't like this assclown, nice of him to give another reason to bite my thumb at him
i'm not reading anything where the writer didnt even bother to use spellcheck on their essay, it literally only gets 4 words in before there's a grammatical mistake and the following paragraph is riddled with basic spelling mistakes and grammatical errors
[https://theredspectre.com/against-dengism.html](article link on updated website + github bad). The github is also deprecated so all updates only appear on the website.
Legitimately awful article I feel like I'm losing my mind. Why does the writer capitalize random words and miss spaces?
If we assume that once Socialism is attained the Relations of Production become subordinated to the productive forces, Hence a change to the relations of production(Like permitting private ownership) will not change its Socialist nature, Rejoice for modern Ukraine is still Socialist!
How can anyone be this fucking stupid? Just completely misrepresenting the argument.
Illiterate quote mining.
It read like a religious debate, not Marxist study.
