As reported by Huawei Central, the new Qingyun W515x is equipped with China's bleeding-edge octa-core Kirin 9000C processor, which clocks up to 3.1 GHz.
While the CPU specs remain a secret, the CPU cooler is a low-profile unit that reportedly maintains a chassis temperature below 30C at maximum load. The fan noise level is also quiet, coming in at 21.82 dB.
Sounds impressive but this should really be the baseline for non enthusiast CPU temps and power draw if x86 processors weren't so inefficient.
30 C (86 F) should be baseline at load? Lol. This thing is severely underclocked if that is the temp at load. Laptop processors basically run at 90 C
But should they run at 90c? They certainly don't have to, and it would sure be nice to just use much more efficient chips that don't produce all that waste heat and burn through power.
Then imagine how cool they could get if software devs actually cared about efficiency
RETVRN TO TRADITION: When ram was measured in KB and video game had to load and run off of a floppy disk.
Oh I didn't read the at load part. It's perfectly reasonable at idle and low load applications.
below 30C at maximum load
Yeah right. I'll believe it when I see it tested independently.
Genuinely seems farfetched.
Or it's just shitty small cores? Even China's best core designes are 10 years behind, even tho they have great tech in some small aspects like their branch prediction system
Source: Chips and Cheese, a hardware engineering analysis website
10 years behind
lol you are absolutely taking the piss if you think these are only comparable to Haswell. Orientalist bias is pouring off of this statement from your 9 day old account with an entire 2 comments ever made. The Chinese brainpan just can't possibly compete!
China is stealing tech patents and its not fair, also their tech is 10 years behind, also they live in a dystopian tech-ruled surveillance state, also their economy is about to collapse, also they are single-handedly destabilizing US hegemony
Their core designs are more or less way behind, because they needed to learn and create lots of infrastructure technology. Read the Chips and Cheese article on the latest Loongson cores, even tho they have impressive technology in some aspects, the core design is way behind AMD or even Intel.
Zhaoxin is also a bad joke.
Kirin in particular is ARM based and they at least have access to ARM core designs, so it's a surely better situation than fully domestic projects. But still, more single core performance is incredibly hard to achieve, and don't be surprised to learn that these CPUs are only capable of simple tasks.
I'm an Iranian computer engineer and a ProleWiki contributor. I'm not coming from a place of malice, I'm stating the facts of the matter on Chinese technology.
I replied to you with this account.
I would also like to note that the FIRST comment I made with that acc was in defense of China. EDIT: I deleted it actually but I was defending against the Xinjiang bullshit
10 years is still absolutely ridiculous and you should feel silly for having said that. At most they're 1 generation behind. Comparing them to Haswell? HASWELL? Really?
I think you know this was silly and why it provoked a reaction from me.
Haswell is actually not an ancient core, lot's of the tech used in Haswell is still relevant today. Fuck, it took RiscV years until they had anything comparable to Haswell's SIMD.
x86 is bad with power efficiency, ARM is much better. Some ARM Apple laptops don't have a cooler, even.
5nm technology is the best manufacturing process China currently has access to. Since U.S. regulations have banned China's access to the latest generation of chipmaking tools, China's chipmaking facilities have to deal with the restrictions of older shipbuilding tools that aren't necessarily capable of building the latest-generation tech, like extreme ultraviolet lithography (EUV). It has limited China's ability to develop competitive CPUs with Intel, AMD, Apple, and Qualcomm's latest chips.
I didn't know ships were used in microprocessors!
5nm?!! That's 2020 tech, they may as well go back to stone tools if they're one generation behind!
Oh, hey Bob! I didn't know you were still around, glad to have such a brave patriot here on Hexbear. o7
I wanna know what ISA it uses. I wanna be able to install Linux on modernish hardware without having the management engine and its equivalents hardwired in.
Kirin 9000 series have been ARMv8
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there are other companies also working on risk5 and a new isa loongarch that is getting support rolled out
A new system with a slow China-made processor
thanks for the adjective, tomshardware.com
China's bleeding-edge octa-core Kirin 9000C processor, which clocks up to 3.1 GHz
The Kirin 9000C is an octa-core CPU with 12 threads and a 2.48 GHz frequency
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(might just be top vs. default clock speed but whatever, 0/10 for ambiguous writing)
gotta add some cope to the article as not to offend western sensibilities :)