But because authorities couldn’t prove that he brought the gun to school, and because his father declined to allow a search of their home, the student was allowed to continue going to classes as long as he submitted to a daily pat down by administrators to ensure he didn’t have a firearm.
Lyle, a bright, 17-year-old and passionate advocate for the Second Amendment right to bear arms who felt he had the right to possess firearms — perhaps even on a high school campus.
When officers arrived at her house, she gave them permission to search and they found a black and gray AR-15-style rifle, capped by a silencer, along with a 30-round ammunition magazine in Lyle’s bedroom.
So kid was a libertarian, dad probably knew his kid had guns because somehow a 17 year old managed to get an AR15, a silencer, and 30 round mags which are all incredibly expensive for a student to get on his own.
Lyle’s status as a probationer meant he could be subjected to searches by law enforcement or probation officers at any time to monitor his compliance with the conditions of his probation. But DPS and the Denver Police Department said even if school resource officers were on campus, they would not have conducted searches of a student. That’s why the task fell to educators.
Resource officers weren't allowed on campus, but even if they were they had no plans on searching anybody, so this would've happened with or without cops.
That’s when a fellow student reported that Lyle may have had a gun. A campus security officer sought to question him, but he left the school instead. Denver police then went to his father’s apartment and asked to search the student’s bedroom. His father refused.
I'm against cops being on campus and all, but if you ALREADY know that one of your students has a fucking rifle and legal troubles, then perhaps there should've been more security protocols for him specifically before allowing him to integrate with everyone else instead of letting random administrators pat him down. They already had cops investigate this kid specifically but then just allowed random people to pat him down lol
That meme of the class going "Say the line!"
And Bart goes "The shooter was known to law enforcement"
They’ll harass and kill you for walking home at night but when it’s appropriate to use force they’ll shit their pants and hide in the bathroom, stand around in the halls, or just do the bare minimum police work. What are we paying them for?
Hell even in poor areas they won’t give a shit about your property. No one can afford to bribe them or pay their salaries.
It's possible to 3D print a lower receiver, a magazine, and even a suppressor. All the other parts and even ammo can be shipped right to your door in a lot of states. Not that I'd know.
I feel like they would’ve mentioned that the parts were all 3D printed since they want to scaremonger about ghost guns. The fact that they aren’t probably suggests they’re normal parts
I read through it and they called the weapon itself a ghost gun and stated the suppressor wasn't registered, which would be expensive and impractical for him to have gotten a hold of unless he printed it himself.
You can't really print a suppressor. But 3d print AR lowers, which are what is legally the "gun" can be used to finish online ordered kits.
Well I obviously haven't printed one but if I did I'd be telling you that it is very possible and there are several designs online anyone can download and print.
the laser sintering ones you can. people are working novel geometry that wouldn't be possible to machine with traditional methods, and i don't follow it closely but the us military is maybe trying them on the silly new rifle.
What a fucking bizarre story.
I just don't know what you do with someone like that, it seems like they developed some pathological obsession with gun ownership/rights. Obviously tenuous because who knows what will set someone like that off, and not feasible because it's just not safe, but it seems like there's a possibility he might have never shot anyone if he'd just never showed the guns to anyone and never happened to be searched. We'll never know obviously but it's one of the very few times where the weird media language used in this report (the headline had me rolling me eyes) isn't totally offensive.
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I'm sure he learned all about gun rights from reading books, and hasn't had his teen brain destroyed by the internet
First of all, this shoot was black. People should really stop assuming things with zero research.
But its incredible that cops are still useless even when they could’ve used their authority for a good reason.
Trans shooter? Everyone is discussing that the answer is clearly to execute all trans people as painfully as possible.
Cis, white shooter? Oh he leans to the right as well? In this case, the shooter is the REAL victim here.
It really just manufactures Bizarro libertarians like it's a job or something
Lyle’s status as a probationer meant he could be subjected to searches by law enforcement or probation officers at any time to monitor his compliance with the conditions of his probation. But DPS and the Denver Police Department said even if school resource officers were on campus, they would not have conducted searches of a student. That’s why the task fell to educators.
Again cops being fucking useless doing the tasks people want them to do to keep a community safe but then they become gung-ho to fuck over anyone :us-foreign-policy:
And they wonder why we call them fuckin' worse than useless!
Well damn call me surprised. Now I just gotta ask the second most important question, were his parents rich?
Assuming the AR15 and suppressor are legit and not 3D printed, possibly. East High School also looks like a cathedral/college campus although not every student who goes there is rich.
Even if the suppressor was a registered one (it definitely wasn’t),a can and cheap rifle are half the cost of a beater used car. They’re not luxury goods or prohibitively expensive.
Next week we’re going to find out the shooter was on the spectrum but focused on guns instead of trains or Gundam.
found a black and gray AR-15-style rifle
I hate gun guy circlejerks, but the media also just keeps using the terminology gun guys circlejerk about(scary black guns in this case.)
