• supafuzz [comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    So they do still exist in the wild!

    Imagine if this is the kind of Christian who got to have TV channels. Call-in donation shows where they light debt on fire

  • GarfieldYaoi [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    I take it back, reddit atheists are cringe again. This shit rocks.

    • DoubleShot [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      This shit does rock, but come on. For every Christian church that does this there's 9 that are horrible and are currently working to make the lives of nearly everyone who isn't them a lot worse.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        but come on. For every Christian church that does this there’s 9 that are horrible and are currently working to make the lives of nearly everyone who isn’t them a lot worse.

        Can much different be said about :reddit-logo: New Atheists and their devotion to Sam Harris and other chud cult of personality leaders, or for that matter the mainline ideology's worship of tech billionaires and their desire to enslave/slaughter the rest of us because we're "NPCs" to them?

        How many of them see the extermination of Muslims, among others, as some "logical" solution, just like Sam Harris and other New Atheist idols do?

        How many of them on :reddit-logo: alone are lanyard carrying military-industrial complex contractor war criminals with extra steps, by their own admission? :obama-drone:

        "Dear Muslima" was penned by Richard Dawkins and "Elevatorgate" wasn't long ago.

        • Sen_Jen [they/them]
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          1 year ago

          Comparing online racist nerds and one of the most powerful institutions in the world is a bit silly though don't you think.

          • UlyssesT [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            Considering how much military power is currently involved regarding the people that pay those online racist nerds, and what they are paid to do, no, it's not that silly.

            • Sen_Jen [they/them]
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              1 year ago

              I'm sorry I don't understand what you're saying. You're saying the military are paying reddit atheists to spread propaganda? I don't get it

              • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                I'm saying that many of them, by their own admission, have jobs with the US DoD.

                • Sen_Jen [they/them]
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                  1 year ago

                  Ok but so do a lot of evangelicals, and they actually have the backing of churches. Like the Christian churches have historically been some of the most corrupt institutions ever and are literally indoctrination machines. Reddit atheists are a recent movement of fascist-adjacent nerds with a few YouTubers as their figureheads. They're clearly not on the same level

                  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                    1 year ago

                    Ok but so do a lot of evangelicals

                    I never said otherwise.

                    My point is that it's an arrogant mistake to assume that an absence of religion is some sort of ideological protection against being a monster.

                  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                    1 year ago

                    That was a side matter, but still a concerning one considering how much misogynistic (and Islamophobic) bullshit he stoked in his followers.

        • Goblinmancer [any]
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          1 year ago

          Tbf the problem with :reddit-logo: atheist is the :reddit-logo: part. Also because many only care about vidya games; like early on they hate christian conservative because conservatives wants to ban vidya games and later on they hated feminists out of paranoid belief that Anita Sarkeesian wanted to ban vidya games.

          • UlyssesT [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            Also because many only care about vidya games;

            They care about a whole lot (especially regarding who should be subjugated or killed) but the video game part just gets them started.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Ws are kind of hard to come by in general right now.

    • FuckYourselfEndless [ze/hir]
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      1 year ago

      Jesus was basically a reddit atheist of his time when you think about it. He was always debating and epicly pwning people with arguments.

  • flan [they/them]
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    1 year ago

    if one were to hypothetically have the means to do something like this, how would they be able to purchase the debt?

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Liberation theology ftw :maduro-katana-1: :jesus-cleanse: :yes-hahaha-yes-l:

  • Sea_Gull [they/them]
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    1 year ago

    So wait, in essence, they cancelled millions of dollars in debt for just a few thousand?

    I'm happy they did it either way, but I'm wondering if that could be used to tackle medical debt through mutual aid.

    • supafuzz [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      It has been done a few times over the years. Occupy had a "Rolling Jubilee."

      Debt is only marked down that far if they're already pretty sure they'll never collect it. But better some comrades who are going to explicitly cancel it than a scummy collection agency who will use it as an excuse to harass the shit out of people.

  • Evilphd666 [he/him, comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    Now why can't a family member "buy the debt" for fractions of pennies on the dollar?

    This is totally cool, but like if they sell debt this cheap then why can't anyone else settle for this cheap - even buy their own debt?

    • wwiehtnioj [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      I think it is self explanatory why creditors won't let you buy back your own debt for pennies on the dollar (sometimes you can negotiate paying it back partially though). They offload bundled debts that they think will be too hard to recover onto less scrupulous people who are more willing to get their hands dirty to extract more than they paid. Anyone can buy this debt and there were a few orgs doing it as mutual aid especially around occupy wallstreet times. It might be possible to organize people into some kind of debtors union to buy out their own debts but I guarantee such a union would be crushed with the fury of a thousand suns. I recommend reading Debt: the first 5000 years.

      • DoghouseCharlie [he/him, comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        Back when PayPal offered an unsecure line of credit I took 500 and never paid it back. I blocked PayPal's emails and then when they sold the debt to a collector I blocked their emails too.

  • ToxicDivinity [comrade/them]
    hexagon
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    1 year ago

    https://twitter.com/MorePerfectUS/status/1645867657697153046
    https://nitter.net/MorePerfectUS/status/1645867657697153046

  • emizeko [they/them]
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    1 year ago

    didn't know you could buy debt with geographic filtering like that

  • RNAi [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    So this is like, 8 or 9 people with their debts cleaned?

  • LGOrcStreetSamurai [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Jubilee is a concept that needs to gains greater popularity. destroying debt in semi regular intervals should be just be a thing we do.

    • 7bicycles [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Give it a decade or two and you could run as the gamer president and get this done by calling it seaons and gear wipes

      • LGOrcStreetSamurai [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        “For too long those with the battle pass to the economy have benefited from the hard labor of regular F2P workers. We don’t need a new deal, we need a rework!”