“Next year, America goes to the polls. Donald Trump is running for president while under criminal indictment,” interviewer Beth Rigby said. “This, the man who back in 2016 consistently accused you of law-breaking and actively encouraged chats of ‘lock her up,’ directed at you. It’s pretty ironic, isn’t it, that he’s now a former president that could face a jail term. How does it make you feel?”
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The concentration camps for the poors (and trans people, and Muslims, and :us-foreign-policy: and "wokes" and...) would follow that brief spark of hilarity. I'm no longer in the mood to laugh about it.
Buddy look around at the trajectory of the biden administration, that shit is coming from the American govt no matter what. This is you falling for electoralism dawg
Buddy
Buddy just because something is very bad doesn't mean it can't get even worse. This is you falling for fatalism dawg
I literally said it's going to get worse. It is getting worse anyway. We're not living under an administration where all of the things you are worried about did not already get materially worse. Trump wins, it gets worse. Neolib Dem, biden or other wins, it gets worse. There's no "if we elect the Democrat it won't get so bad" path here and Im astounded that after all I know you've witnessed and all I've seen you post your opinion still flips back to that position anyway
It's a tiresome false equivalence, and yes, fatalism, to claim that a horrible administration is already rock bottom and nothing can, will, or even could change for the worse. It didn't help that it started in a condescending "buddy, dawg" dunk.
Believe what you will, but I'm done with this reply chain.
Can we all just chill? Clearly y'all have different communication styles and that is okay.
I'm not your buddy, pal, and I'm not your pal, friend!
I dunno though. Maybe Biden or Clinton would do all the same bad things but more slowly and less openly. Or maybe they would just be more competent and therefore worse. If Trump wins then certain people might feel like now is the time to ramp up the fascism. Or maybe Trump loosing would actually cause a much more destructive backlash. So while I get the desperate want to have some kind of harm reduction I feel very pessimistic and I don't want to just shrug and say fatalism is the answer but the idea that a Clinton or Biden would be better angers me.We're all scared and unsure of how things will pan out so if I'm wrong or a dork I don't mind discussing it but I don't wanna be mean to people on here since we're pretty much all on the same side (except for the cat thing).
Yeah it's not great.
On the other hand Clinton would probably do more damage outside the US (She'd invade Atlantis for oil if she thought it existed.) Trump's one silver lining was his ineffectual flailing at Foreign Policy.
I think US citizens should absolutely not hope for a Trump win, or think there's no difference. But really it's a dark choice if we do get Hillary vs Trump.
https://www.lennyletter.com/story/hillary-clinton-is-more-than-a-president
When people told me they hated Hillary Clinton or (far worse) that they were "not fans," I wish I had said in no uncertain terms: "I love Hillary Clinton. I am in awe of her. I am set free by her. She will be the finest world leader our galaxy has ever seen."
I wish, in those exchanges, I had not asked gentle, tolerant questions about a hater's ridiculous allergy to her, or Clinton's fictional misdeeds and imagined character flaws. More deeply still, I wish I had not reasoned with anyone, patiently countered their ludicrous emotionalism and psychologically disturbed theories. I wish I had said, flatly, "I love her." As if I had been asked about my mother or daughter.
I want to reverse the usual schedule of things, then. We don't have to wait until she dies to act. Hillary Clinton's name belongs on ships, and airports, and tattoos. She deserves straight-up hagiographies and a sold-out Broadway show called RODHAM. Yes, this cultural canonization is going to come after the chronic, constant, nonstop "On the other hand" sexist hedging around her legacy. But such is the courage of Hillary Clinton and her supporters; we reverse patriarchal orders. Maybe she is more than a president. Maybe she is an idea, a world-historical heroine, light itself. The presidency is too small for her. She belongs to a much more elite class of Americans, the more-than-presidents. Neil Armstrong, Martin Luther King Jr., Alexander Fucking Hamilton.
“I love Hillary Clinton. I am in awe of her. I am set free by her. She will be the finest world leader our galaxy has ever seen.”
I wonder what the phrase "I am set free by her" means to this freak. That sounds like a quote from a serial killer film. Scrawled across a wall in blood.
When people told me they hated Kim Jong Un or (far worse) that they were “not fans,” I wish I had said in no uncertain terms: “I love Kim. I am in awe of him. I am set free by him. He will be the finest world leader our galaxy has ever seen.”
I wish, in those exchanges, I had not asked gentle, tolerant questions about a hater’s ridiculous allergy to him, or the Kims' fictional misdeeds and imagined character flaws. More deeply still, I wish I had not reasoned with anyone, patiently countered their ludicrous emotionalism and psychologically disturbed theories. I wish I had said, flatly, “I love him.” As if I had been asked about my mother or son.
I want to reverse the usual schedule of things, then. We don’t have to wait until he dies to act. Kim Jong Un's name belongs on ships, and airports, and tattoos. He deserves straight-up hagiographies and a sold-out Broadway show called JUCHE. Yes, this cultural canonization is going to come after the chronic, constant, nonstop “On the other hand” imperialist hedging around his legacy. But such is the courage of Kim Jong Un and his supporters; we reverse capitalist orders. Maybe he is more than a president. Maybe he is an idea, a world-historical hero, light itself. The presidency is too small for him. He belongs to a much more elite class of Koreans, the more-than-presidents. King Taejo, Yi Do, Kim Jong fucking Sung.
More than anything else, its the "Alexander Fucking Hamilton" that gets me every time
you know what would be even funnier
if she lost to biden - the only candidate with a proven track record of defeating fascism on the polls
its only fascism if it comes from the villages area of florida, otherwise its just powdered cheetoism
so what you're saying is that trump is a FIINO (fascist icon in name only)
There is a reason the "scratch a liberal" types want DeSantis to run.
Trump is a businessman he knows his base loves words and ignores actions. So he will say shit like “I’ll round up the homeless” or “the wall will be built by Mexico” knowing damn well it won’t happen and that his base won’t care.
DeSantis is an evil ass nerd who tries to put that stuff into motion. With the expected horrific consequences
its 2024, you're a rank and file dem organizer of some kind.
you keep getting calls from both hillary and obama. they seem contradictory, but also cryptic enough you're not sure wether to tell people to stay home or vote for the corpse previously known as president biden
:cmon-do-something:
(I can’t find the emote’s actual name, we might not even have it, so just imagine.)
That's a nice idea but the federal government will utterly crush them. The feds are incredibly well-armed and have all our communications tapped. Such an insurrection would be stopped as soon as it started, with all the governors arrested or drone striked.
American war veterans who are very familiar with the high successful tactics of Iraqi and Afghani insurgents,
Oh come on. These insurgents died like flies. The k/d ration was something like 50:1. Chuds don't have the stones for that. Not when the Xbox is calling. And how about the football pool? Or that fishing boat they've got to get out on the lake?
with all the governors arrested or drone striked.
As if that wouldn’t cause even more tension? That would be a complete undoing of our state vs federal system, basically a constitutional crisis.
But before that, how much of the military do you really think is going to be loyal to Hillary Clinton? It would be a proper civil war, not a quickly crushed insurrection.
Biden has been purging the military like a muthafucka. The rightwing nutjobs are mostly out of a job by now. The rest are getting DEI instruction every day. Take heart, the military isn't what it once was.
Drawing the fascists out and making them strike is exactly the outcome that would be the best. They'd be crushed under the weight of sedition and treason laws and they'd fill the prisons for the next 40 years. Let's see them work for 25 cents an hour and eat disgusting food left over from Iraq 2003.
The rightwing nutjobs are mostly out of a job by now.
Bullshit, there would hardly be a military left.
They purged a lot of them with the covid vax requirement and the mandatory stand-downs for DEI training. Plus, they're having a recruitment crisis. Right-wingers are telling young men not to join. It's surreal, it sounds like what the 60s radicals were saying about the military.
Oh my fucking god I wish she would just fucking die already-
Hillary losing again would be too funny tho. I would never actually support the GOP nominee, but I would just be ready to have a really good time if she loses.
That emote could have easily been named hill-pog, but the admins chose psychic violence.
Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton
antichristprophecy
HillaryDianeClinton
The second is +1 but that's to be expected."666 is the number of the Beast" so sayeth the Bible and Iron Maiden.
HillaryDianeRodhamClinton
24 letters
6 + 6 + 6 + Clinton + 1
Please stop asking for "popcorn" moments when fucking nazis want to murder vulnerable people even faster than the liberals.
At this point, it's hard for me to tell the difference between "I want accelerated human suffering because that would be funny" and "I want to joke about wanting accelerated human suffering." :doomer:
I'm one of the people he'd kill given the chance and I don't have a choice this cycle to campaign for Biden as either alternative wishes to remove me from public life and throw me into a prison camp for the crime of existing.
People I love and care about are quite likely to die from the most likely outcomes. I may be among them. Process it how you will, but I'm not feeling the same vibes.
sorry, I'm saying the same thing but accidentally dropped a word "I don't have a choice but to campaign for Biden..."
Unfortunately, there are just enough savvy agents among the DNC to recognize her running could revitalize the left
Biden isn't useful to the dems because he barely beat Trump, he's vital because he indirectly annihilated the nascent leftwing of America, broke it into a million pieces and secured neoliberal dominance of oppositional politics for another decade at least
Doesn't matter how much of a lich he becomes, you don't throw away an asset like that, even if Trump wins
:obama-spike: Uh, let me be clear. Biden would be nowhere if I hadn't made some phonecalls, and promised secretary level positions to some junior league politicians.
YES! Do it! Round three of the dumbest show in history.
Watching Trump beat her using his trials as a personal political platform will indeed be the funniest outcome.
To be fair this is what I say when i submit an application to a job I'm not at all qualified for too.
This is what I say when I'm watching professional athletes in a championship game.
