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  • Highalectical@lemmygrad.ml
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    4 months ago

    Not only do people believe it, thinking the Molotov Ribbentrop pact was an alliance is the most common take on it I've seen from people I know in meatspace.

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      4 months ago

      The only people that know what it is who are anticommunists. The rest don't have a clue.

      • Highalectical@lemmygrad.ml
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        4 months ago

        In my experience, they couldn't tell you the name of the pact or anything about it if you asked them, but the "USSR and nazis teamed up" talking point is still there.

        • duderium [he/him]
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          4 months ago

          Liberals of all kinds, even those who are not well-read, believe that Nazism and communism are the same.

            • duderium [he/him]
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              4 months ago

              I love this quote. What’s even worse though is being technically literate but still so fervently anti-communist that you refuse to even look at Marxist texts. Or, if you do look at them, they just look like gibberish. This is what happened to me when I attempted to read The Communist Manifesto and Capital as a liberal teenager. I got nowhere.

      • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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        4 months ago

        Ehh you usually do, the much better arguments are:

        1. A ton of other countries had non-aggression pacts with the Nazis
        2. The Soviets signed theirs after Britain and France shot down an anti-Nazi pact (which would be an example of a pact between allies)
        3. Your allies don't launch a genocidal invasion of you
        • Biggay [he/him, comrade/them]
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          4 months ago

          Not to actually The Soviets and Britain + France were not actual political allies, only really allies in that they eventually fought the same country for a very brief period of time. In the case of France they were never at war with the Nazis simultaneously as the Soviets

    • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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      4 months ago

      Always ask them if they know what is a Czechoslovakia, what happened to it in 1938 and who were the people shaking hands nodding in agreement and then finally happily cheering after it happened.

    • amphibian [she/her]
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      4 months ago

      idk what meatspace is, am i blessed for my ignorance here?