After all this I am not really bothered by juche gang posts, whether ironic or not, like damn. South Korea was just indefinitely worse than North Korea, it was like a fucking totalitarian state. It wasn’t until the 80s that the economic situation reversed. I mean I don’t think anyone should support the current regime but when you learn that more bombs were dropped on North Korea per capita than anywhere else in the world, ever, it becomes understandable why they’re seen as a backwards country with no development. The country was literally flattened by US bombing campaigns. And then you learn that Kim il sung gave rights to women while Rhee was murdering suspected communists by the thousands. The US was committing atrocities like No Gun Ri and yet in the common image America and South Korea are the good guys. I mean, fuck, I don’t think I can support the direction that Kim Jong un has taken North Korea in, but after learning this it solidifies my anti American views, there is officially no war after WW2 that America was justified in. I can’t believe that anti Korean War sentiment isn’t as high as anti Vietnam war, more people need to know about this

  • JoeySteel [comrade/them]
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    Whether you should support Kim Jong Un...

    You should consider the fact the SOUTH koreans have an 80% approval rating of him

    https://time.com/5262898/kim-jong-un-approval-rating/

    North Korea quite literally never did anything wrong except try to build socialism whilst US setup a puppet state with Japanese collaborators in the south and killed 20% of Koreans living in the north of Korea

    Were the US to never exist the Korean Communists would have taken South Korea in a weekend post ww2

    Dprks current predicament is completely manufactured by the USA

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      Caveat on that poll though is that it was heavily influenced by the meeting between Kim and Moon. Like it jumped 68 points in a month.

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        I had a look at older polls and he had over 50% in 2013 under Obama

        https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/10276670/Kim-Jong-uns-approval-rating-higher-than-Barack-Obamas.html

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          That's also not a general poll, but a poll of north korean escapees. And it's not that they approve of him, they were asked if they thought the majority of North Koreans did.

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      That poll is heavily influenced by what was going on at the time. People were approving of President Moon meeting Kim, and approving of President Trump going to meet Kim, they were approving of Kim going to meet also.

      What a surprise that people in the Korean peninsula are supportive of world leader that were trying to make efforts to diplomatic solutions (as symbolic, and unlikely to succeed as they were), rather than supporting aggression. This was coming hot of the heels of Trump tweeting about fire and fury, John Bolton becoming National Security Advisor (just months after saying that a nuclear first strike against the dprk would be good and legal). And Lindsey Graham casually commenting that a war in Korea would be worth it even though many people would die "over there" (in Korea), because people in the US would not die.

      Meetings between Trump, Kim and Moon very quickly reduced the tension and people were relieved.

      Turns out people prefer that their country not be turned into a warzone, and are supportive of world leaders that (they believe) are working toward that end.

      It should NOT be be construed as saying that the majority of South Koreans are Juche-pilled and are hoping that the entire peninsula will be united under the DPRK with Kim as their leader.