No, not specifically. For sure that is part of of that five decade mission of rounding the sharp edges off the nazis. You simply wouldn't have made a cute Hitler dance number if you weren't in that stream already.
I have serious objections to the idea that Mel Brooks, and other Jewish artists, making the fash look like a pack of deranged buffoons is somehow contributing to the acceptance of fascism.
Skewering fascism by making it's adherents look like complete idiots is one of the few ways in media that you can fight them. Any other depiction just makes them look cool to people already primed to like them.
That does not seem to actually be true. It feels true. However it seems the best way is simply to not talk about them. Say they were bad and move on to talking about good things that deserve attention. Positivity is the way forward.
How does the influence of the occasional leftist satire hold up against the vast sea of excrement constantly being churned out by the mass media?
This whole argument that satire is too dangerous to produce vastly, vastly over estimates our power to influence society. To whit; we don't have any. Sorry to bother you and the producers and inglorious basterds are such rare points in a vast sea of neoliberalism and overt fascism that worrying about them is pointless hand wringing. There's a very good reason why we're talking about one specific 30 year old piece of anti-fascist propaganda; there have only been a handful of similarly impactful anti-fascist films since then, out of untold thousands of entirely sincere fash or fash adjacent or turbolib action movies. For every dork who joined the marines because they saw the movie, we've got people who realized heinlein was a shitty incoherent :libertarian-approaching: chud because Verhoeven's movie got them to reexamine their beliefs.
Being worried that once in a decade anti-fascist movies are somehow instrumental to the march of fascism when we've got like thirty Transformers movies, that American Sniper trash, all the dark gritty batman capeshit, and endless cop dramas is self indulgent. They don't matter. Nothing would have changed if they hadn't been made. Laugh, enjoy that brief moment of levity and humor in the sea of nightmares that is our lives, and move on.
P good as far as I can tell. Like star trek, showing people what a good world could be inspires more people towards our side than watching liberals make fun of other liberals. There is a reason we don't see more solar punk stuff. That is actually upsetting to the project butterfly types. I am not saying to banish the producer's. I am just saying don't pin your artistic hopes on it.
I’m sorry but Springtime for Hitler did not rehabilitate Hitler’s image, 5 decades of Cold War propaganda and conspiracy theory nonsense did that.
No, not specifically. For sure that is part of of that five decade mission of rounding the sharp edges off the nazis. You simply wouldn't have made a cute Hitler dance number if you weren't in that stream already.
I have serious objections to the idea that Mel Brooks, and other Jewish artists, making the fash look like a pack of deranged buffoons is somehow contributing to the acceptance of fascism.
Skewering fascism by making it's adherents look like complete idiots is one of the few ways in media that you can fight them. Any other depiction just makes them look cool to people already primed to like them.
That does not seem to actually be true. It feels true. However it seems the best way is simply to not talk about them. Say they were bad and move on to talking about good things that deserve attention. Positivity is the way forward.
And how has that worked out in the real world?
How does the influence of the occasional leftist satire hold up against the vast sea of excrement constantly being churned out by the mass media?
This whole argument that satire is too dangerous to produce vastly, vastly over estimates our power to influence society. To whit; we don't have any. Sorry to bother you and the producers and inglorious basterds are such rare points in a vast sea of neoliberalism and overt fascism that worrying about them is pointless hand wringing. There's a very good reason why we're talking about one specific 30 year old piece of anti-fascist propaganda; there have only been a handful of similarly impactful anti-fascist films since then, out of untold thousands of entirely sincere fash or fash adjacent or turbolib action movies. For every dork who joined the marines because they saw the movie, we've got people who realized heinlein was a shitty incoherent :libertarian-approaching: chud because Verhoeven's movie got them to reexamine their beliefs.
Being worried that once in a decade anti-fascist movies are somehow instrumental to the march of fascism when we've got like thirty Transformers movies, that American Sniper trash, all the dark gritty batman capeshit, and endless cop dramas is self indulgent. They don't matter. Nothing would have changed if they hadn't been made. Laugh, enjoy that brief moment of levity and humor in the sea of nightmares that is our lives, and move on.
P good as far as I can tell. Like star trek, showing people what a good world could be inspires more people towards our side than watching liberals make fun of other liberals. There is a reason we don't see more solar punk stuff. That is actually upsetting to the project butterfly types. I am not saying to banish the producer's. I am just saying don't pin your artistic hopes on it.