Apparently there’s an issue [https://sh.itjust.works/post/37624] with some instances banning users for criticizing authoritarian governments. Is lemmy.world a safe place to criticize governments?
Right?! That was basically my reaction to this thread and now my major worry. I want Lemmy and the fediverse to grow, but not at the expense of it just becoming Reddit 2.0 in its userbase culture
half of it's the bad politics, but the other half is just the smug, annoying, unfunny commenting tendencies. like a good portion of redditors just have zero ability to look at a dogshit comment and think "nah, i don't need to put my account name on this one, this adds nothing"
Fuck the see see pee Winnie the Pooh social credit!! :so-true:
All the greatest r*dditor China one joke equivalents. Funny how on Reddit nothing ever happens to anyone posting this shit or even to those straight up calling for China to be nuked, but if you post anything that contradicts Western media, it'll be deleted. Yet they're always patting themselves on the back for defying authority and sticking it to China.
What exactly shapes Redditors into being like this? Again, I've never seen another social media site as obsessed with China as they are. Yeah you'll get dumbass Youtube videos and comments but they almost never end up being trending sites unlike Reddit where sinophobic propaganda always makes it to the front page.
I know a lot of them are astroturfed but this just shows that a lot of them are regular people who've been completely brain broken.
As far as online redditors go: I think one of the points of origin were that video game companies/sports companies were marketing towards China, or deferring to their laws in that respect, and were peeling away from catering and cultivating deference and veneration to US/Western markets. That point in time in pre-Covid marked as a small but significant signifier of the beginning of the end of the primacy of the Western market, and therefore its cultural dominance.
After that , the hate was just stemmed from a background understanding of the stagnancy and diminishing relevancy of the US/West and a need for ritual externalization of evil and scapegoating of internal problems and inability to address much less solve them.
To present it in another analogue, it's like how conservatives reacted to Obama becoming President, or AOC becoming a political celebrity. The panic is not about the policies those two advocate for. The panic is about the perceived end of domination of politics by white Americans and social conservative values.
Panic about China and Russia is panic about the end of global dominance; dominance for the sake of maintaining cheap goods and easy access to credit and wealth, and the white supremacist neoliberal capitalist order that ensures that as the beneficiaries of this system, even if not within the ruling class, will maintain a level of comfort and leisure unparalleled in human history.
That makes more sense. It goes along with the paranoid takes I would hear about American entertainment being controlled by China. Didn't sound all that different from Jewish conspiracies.
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Right?! That was basically my reaction to this thread and now my major worry. I want Lemmy and the fediverse to grow, but not at the expense of it just becoming Reddit 2.0 in its userbase culture
That is why leftists need to be there. Image r/TheDeprogram moving to Lemmy
half of it's the bad politics, but the other half is just the smug, annoying, unfunny commenting tendencies. like a good portion of redditors just have zero ability to look at a dogshit comment and think "nah, i don't need to put my account name on this one, this adds nothing"
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Fuck the see see pee Winnie the Pooh social credit!! :so-true:
All the greatest r*dditor China one joke equivalents. Funny how on Reddit nothing ever happens to anyone posting this shit or even to those straight up calling for China to be nuked, but if you post anything that contradicts Western media, it'll be deleted. Yet they're always patting themselves on the back for defying authority and sticking it to China.
Buh bu but Tencent dough.
What exactly shapes Redditors into being like this? Again, I've never seen another social media site as obsessed with China as they are. Yeah you'll get dumbass Youtube videos and comments but they almost never end up being trending sites unlike Reddit where sinophobic propaganda always makes it to the front page.
I know a lot of them are astroturfed but this just shows that a lot of them are regular people who've been completely brain broken.
As far as online redditors go: I think one of the points of origin were that video game companies/sports companies were marketing towards China, or deferring to their laws in that respect, and were peeling away from catering and cultivating deference and veneration to US/Western markets. That point in time in pre-Covid marked as a small but significant signifier of the beginning of the end of the primacy of the Western market, and therefore its cultural dominance.
After that , the hate was just stemmed from a background understanding of the stagnancy and diminishing relevancy of the US/West and a need for ritual externalization of evil and scapegoating of internal problems and inability to address much less solve them.
To present it in another analogue, it's like how conservatives reacted to Obama becoming President, or AOC becoming a political celebrity. The panic is not about the policies those two advocate for. The panic is about the perceived end of domination of politics by white Americans and social conservative values.
Panic about China and Russia is panic about the end of global dominance; dominance for the sake of maintaining cheap goods and easy access to credit and wealth, and the white supremacist neoliberal capitalist order that ensures that as the beneficiaries of this system, even if not within the ruling class, will maintain a level of comfort and leisure unparalleled in human history.
That makes more sense. It goes along with the paranoid takes I would hear about American entertainment being controlled by China. Didn't sound all that different from Jewish conspiracies.
235 upvotes too. Glad I never made a Lemmy account.