The largest employment sector on the Islands is the Falkland Islands Government – accounting for 28% of all employment.
you click that link and then click another link to get an awful article that is like a 10000ft "info"graphic scroll and this is all it says about it. 28% are employed by the Falkland Islands Government, which is not "the British government" unless you want to just not distinguish between them for rhetoric.
Without any more information, like, so what? That could mean literally anything depending on the capacity of the local government and services it offers. But okay I guess the Materialist Take here is 28% of the population (the overwhelming majority of which is making poverty wages) are like British Home Office (that's the british state dept right? I don't fucking know) agents doing an espionage on Argentina
Well, there's also the 1000+ British troops stationed at the military base there.
I didn't make any claim about what should or shouldn't be done with the island. I'd said your characterization of the island's population was bad. It was wrong in a way that was misleading. I don't think you were doing that intentionally, but its not an island of shepherds.
Do you have a source for this?
the overwhelming majority of which is making poverty wages)
Amongst 15-64 year olds, the labour force participation rate is 95%, which is amongst the highest in the world, compared to International Labour Organization (ILO) data. The reported average annual income for working-age people in employment was £29,400 (£30,600 in Stanley, £25,600 in Camp). The per capita average income for all individuals aged 16 years and over (working and non-working) is £26,700 (£27,300 in Stanley, £23,500 in Camp). The average annual household income in 2021 was reported to be £53,100 (£56,800 in Stanley, £47,000 in Camp); 22% higher than in 2016, in absolute terms.
Those incomes don't sound like "poverty wages," though I'm sure cost of living is higher in some ways on an island. Though the accommodation and utilities seem pretty affordable compared to those mean incomes. In fact, its more affordable than most areas in the mid-atlantic US, but that probably says more about
Well, there's also the 1000+ British troops stationed at the military base there
pretty sure those aren't "residents" unless you're attempting to make your own characterization of the island's population
Do you have a source for this?
literally your own link...
click link
click the hyper link on "one third of the population" working for the government
Pay is low by UK standards - the average income is £20,100, compared to £26,500 for UK full-time workers. It also varies, depending on where people live.
The census points out wide inequality of earnings too:
***almost half of all residents (49.2%) report an annual income of less than £15,000 (with almost 12% reporting income of less than £5000). ***Most retirees report incomes of less than £15,000 per annum, however fully two thirds of all persons reporting incomes of less than £15,000 per annum also report that they are employed
so ya idk man
I'm not going to be on the side of Argentina forcibly deporting people who live there
The facts you cite are bad, but it's also not what you claimed. Less than 50% of a segment of the island's population is not an "overwhelming majority" of the island making "poverty wages" like you claimed.
Also, I never argued for Argentina deporting people. I don't see what bearing the income of the population would have not deporting or deporting them.
At this point, you've both misrepresented what the source says and put words in my mouth I never said or even implied. You've done this repeatedly.
Where is Argentina supporting deportation of the Falklaners/Malvinenses? What is your source? The Sun?
This is 2023, not 1982.
PD: Cuba supports Argentina. Always the same map supports Argentina https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archivo:Countries_that_support_Argentina%27s_claim_of_sovereignty_over_the_Falkland_Islands,_South_Georgia,_and_South_Sandwich_islands.png. This should ring you a bell or two.
Literally following the link guy posted above indicates fully half of Falkland islanders make $19k or less per year, literally the link dude gave me, but you know what it doesn't even matter because i still don't support Argentina deporting them
Amongst 15-64 year olds, the labour force participation rate is 95%, which is amongst the highest in the world, compared to International Labour Organization (ILO) data. The reported average annual income for working-age people in employment was £29,400 (£30,600 in Stanley, £25,600 in Camp). The per capita average income for all individuals aged 16 years and over (working and non-working) is £26,700 (£27,300 in Stanley, £23,500 in Camp).
The average annual household income in 2021 was reported to be £53,100 (£56,800 in Stanley, £47,000 in Camp); 22% higher than in 2016, in absolute terms.
it was the average annual household income I was thinking about although I did overestimate the degree to which it was higher
It's "4000 shepherds on a rock" who give the United Kingdom territory in South America, if it was "just 4000 shepherds" they would be fine without the UK's military presence in the region.
This really hits the nail in the head: if the issue here is "sovereignty" then shouldn't they reject both Argentina AND the UK?
It's 4000 shepherds on a rock, you understand that autarky has consequences right
A third of the population works for the British gov
Characterizing the population as all shepherds is absurd
Yeah? And? meaningless info?
you click that link and then click another link to get an awful article that is like a 10000ft "info"graphic scroll and this is all it says about it. 28% are employed by the Falkland Islands Government, which is not "the British government" unless you want to just not distinguish between them for rhetoric.
Without any more information, like, so what? That could mean literally anything depending on the capacity of the local government and services it offers. But okay I guess the Materialist Take here is 28% of the population (the overwhelming majority of which is making poverty wages) are like British Home Office (that's the british state dept right? I don't fucking know) agents doing an espionage on Argentina
Well, there's also the 1000+ British troops stationed at the military base there.
I didn't make any claim about what should or shouldn't be done with the island. I'd said your characterization of the island's population was bad. It was wrong in a way that was misleading. I don't think you were doing that intentionally, but its not an island of shepherds.
Do you have a source for this?
I can see the Falkland gov's website states:
Those incomes don't sound like "poverty wages," though I'm sure cost of living is higher in some ways on an island. Though the accommodation and utilities seem pretty affordable compared to those mean incomes. In fact, its more affordable than most areas in the mid-atlantic US, but that probably says more about
pretty sure those aren't "residents" unless you're attempting to make your own characterization of the island's population
literally your own link...
click link
click the hyper link on "one third of the population" working for the government
so ya idk man
I'm not going to be on the side of Argentina forcibly deporting people who live there
The facts you cite are bad, but it's also not what you claimed. Less than 50% of a segment of the island's population is not an "overwhelming majority" of the island making "poverty wages" like you claimed.
Also, I never argued for Argentina deporting people. I don't see what bearing the income of the population would have not deporting or deporting them.
At this point, you've both misrepresented what the source says and put words in my mouth I never said or even implied. You've done this repeatedly.
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I saw this a lot in this thread today.
Where is Argentina supporting deportation of the Falklaners/Malvinenses? What is your source? The Sun?
This is 2023, not 1982.
PD: Cuba supports Argentina. Always the same map supports Argentina https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archivo:Countries_that_support_Argentina%27s_claim_of_sovereignty_over_the_Falkland_Islands,_South_Georgia,_and_South_Sandwich_islands.png. This should ring you a bell or two.
the median income on the falkland isles is double that of England. Most people in England are broke as shit but still
also the UK equivalent of the state dept is the foreign office
Literally following the link guy posted above indicates fully half of Falkland islanders make $19k or less per year, literally the link dude gave me, but you know what it doesn't even matter because i still don't support Argentina deporting them
https://www.falklands.gov.fk/policy/2021-census/census
it was the average annual household income I was thinking about although I did overestimate the degree to which it was higher
It's "4000 shepherds on a rock" who give the United Kingdom territory in South America, if it was "just 4000 shepherds" they would be fine without the UK's military presence in the region.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1938/09/liberation.htm
Right, Argentina never invaded it before and started displacing the people who live there. That definitely did not happen.
Ok bud
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