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Lemmy.world Hexbear Statement - Lemmy.world
lemmy.worldYesterday, we received information about the planned federation by Hexbear. The
announcement thread can be found here: https://www.hexbear.net/post/280770
[https://www.hexbear.net/post/280770]. After reviewing the thread and the
comments, it became evident that allowing Hexbear to federate would violate our
rules. Our code of conduct and server rules can be found here
[https://lemmy.world/legal]. The announcement included several concerning
statements, as highlighted below: - “Please try to keep the dirtbag lib-dunking
to hexbear itself. Do not follow the Chapo Rules of Posting, instead try to
engage utilizing informed rhetoric with sources to dismantle western propaganda.
Posting the western atrocity propaganda and pig poop balls is hilarious but will
pretty quickly get you banned and if enough of us do it defederated.” - “The
West’s role in the world, through organizations such as NATO, the IMF, and the
World Bank - among many others - are deeply harmful to the billions of people
living both inside and outside of their imperial core.” - “These organizations
constitute the modern imperial order, with the United States at its heart - we
are not fooled by the term “rules-based international order.” It is in the
Left’s interest for these organizations to be demolished. When and how this will
occur, and what precisely comes after, is the cause of great debate and
discussion on this site, but it is necessary for a better world.” The rhetoric
and goal of Hexbar are clear based on their announcement: to “dismantle western
propaganda” and "demolish organizations such as NATO” shows that Hexbar has no
intention of "respecting the rules of the community instance in which they are
posting/commenting.” It’s to push their beliefs and ideology. In addition,
several comments from a Hexbear admin, demonstrate that instance rules will not
be respected.
Here are some examples: >“I can assure you there will be no lemmygrad brigades,
that energy would be better funneled into the current war against liberalism on
the wider fediverse.” >“All loyal, honest, active and upright Communists must
unite to oppose the liberal tendencies shown by certain people among us, and set
them on the right path. This is one of the tasks on our ideological front.” -
https://lemmy.world/comment/121850 [https://lemmy.world/comment/121850] -
https://lemmy.world/comment/1487168 [https://lemmy.world/comment/1487168] -
https://lemmy.world/comment/1476084 [https://lemmy.world/comment/1476084] -
https://lemmy.world/comment/171595 [https://lemmy.world/comment/171595] -
https://www.hexbear.net/comment/3648500
[https://www.hexbear.net/comment/3648500] Overall community comments: -
https://www.hexbear.net/comment/3526128
[https://www.hexbear.net/comment/3526128] -
https://www.hexbear.net/comment/3526086
[https://www.hexbear.net/comment/3526086] -
https://www.hexbear.net/comment/3652828
[https://www.hexbear.net/comment/3652828] To clarify, for those who have
inquired about why Hexbear versus Lemmygrad, it should be noted that we are
currently exploring the possibility of defederating from Lemmygrad as well based
on similar comments Hexbear has made. - https://lemmygrad.ml/post/158656
[https://lemmygrad.ml/post/158656] - https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/882559
[https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/882559] - https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/540170
[https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/540170] - https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/446529
[https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/446529] Defederation should only be considered as
a last resort. However, based on their comments and behavior, no positive
outcomes can be expected. We made the decision to preemptively defederate from
Hexbear for these reasons. While we understand that not everyone may agree with
our decision, we believe it is important to prioritize the best interests of our
community.
The rhetoric and goal of Hexbar are clear based on their announcement: to “dismantle western propaganda” and "demolish organizations such as NATO” shows that Hexbar has no intention of "respecting the rules of the community instance in which they are posting/commenting.” It’s to push their beliefs and ideology.
lol. lmao even
What a terrible justification. So their reason for defederating isn't hate speech or anything truly problematic, but because... We're a socialist instance with socialist opinions? So it really is just anti-socialism then? It's also amusing seeing people accuse Hexbear of being an echo chamber, yet it's the lemmy.world admins going against their own users to preemptively defederate instances on shaky ideological grounds? Not only is Hexbear NOT doing this, but admins here even made a post encouraging people to act in good faith and follow the rules of other instances. Which instance is the real echo chamber here? Sure looks like lemmy.world.
Anyways, we have better emotes, better posts, cooler users, and a real community that helps people and does good things. If you're a lemmy.world user reading this, make an account here and come on over. I've been on this site awhile now, and it's actually quite nice.
ideology is something other people do, but not me, i'm built different and have the same political opinions as everyone around me.![this-is-fine this-is-fine](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/a7983510-a3d7-4586-be32-28edeb143334.gif)
And what do we call antisocialism and anticommunism? Thats right, its fascism folks