For the love of anything if you have a quarter million idiots willing to do that, instead of that bullshit, just give them a rifle each and just take Washington DC goddamit.
Perpetuating electoralism is the best way to defeat electoralism: smoothbrained libs
schniff you shee here the duality af liberalizm, able to schniff recockniszche the problemsh schniff of their outdated shyshtem, yet woefully incapable of addrezing them
This is honestly a great idea, taking hundreds of thousands (and eventually millions) of privileged, educated youth from cities and sending them to live in the the countryside so they can learn from the peasantry. This will rejuvenate the revolutionary ardor of the current generation, who are in danger of backsliding into revisionist and right-roadist tendencies.
Can anyone now deny the revolutionary nature of the Democratic Party when they so closely follow the principles of Marxism-Leninism-Maoism.
I was thinking more Pol Pot honestly, sending all urbanites into the countryside and put them on collective farms. Depending on your view of people on this sub, most people here would end up on these farms and I, as the follower of the only true form of Marxism–Leninism, would be your party ordained overseer.
China did do this at the end of the Cultural Revolution, the Down to the Country Movement, ostensibly for the reason I mentioned, to make urban youth learn about the hardships of rural life by living with the peasantry. Although unlike in Cambodia, the intention was never to empty the cities and ruralize the whole country, only high school kids were sent down to the country while their parents stayed in the city and they were allowed to return after one or two years.
Fine, as the official overseer, I'll only make it 10 years. Thank you for your input, you will be given a position as camp food inspector when you start your stint.
Please, comrade, before you do this, consider me. The impact of having a bunch a technocratic lib weirdos move in would absolutely ruin the reasons I like living in the sticks.
Hey There kiddos! Tommy Siegal here with an important message:
All of you little spoiled brat millennials sitting at your liberal coffee shops glugging down your white pumpkin cappuccinos or whatever the fuck you drink need to listen up to me, a wise Gen Xer!
Your cushy smushy work nude jobs can be done in different states, therefore you should spend thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours moving to a barren red state purely for electoral reasons.
I'm sure your employers will be 100% ok with you moving to a different state and never EVER want you to participate in in-person meetings or events. You'll certainly be able to keep your job during a pandemic and incoming economic depression.
Once you move I'm sure your new conservative, rural neighbors will absolutely welcome you with open arms and befriend you as you radically change their political landscape and gentrify entire states, raising the cost of living significantly.
VOTE LIKE YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT, BECAUSE THAT'S ALL YOU'RE GOOD FOR. VOTE YOU BRATS. VOTING IS YOUR ONE PURPOSE IN LIFE YOU FUCKING MILLENNIAL SNOWFLAKES.
Your neoliberal frienemy,
Tommy Small Scholomy
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"and who was it that murdered you?"
"it were the defendant, sir, she murdered me"
"objection! the witness is clearly alive and not at all murdered"
"hm, do you have an explaination for this seeming contradiction mr screamo?"
Stalin doing mass population relocations but its libs forcing people to vote in the state they want and never once questioning their shitty dumb electoral college.
It's because people think the relocation of 250,000 people is far more feasible of a task than anything relating to changing the constitution lol.
The real move if democrats had any sort of balls to them would be to force a massive expansion of the senate by adding states that would exclusively vote democratic. Hell, instead of making DC a state, make each ward of the city a state.
you guys could just fix the awful election system you have but sure make like 200k people move so they can have their ballot rejected by a republican state house that will solve it
is it harder than making 200k people move to random places so in up to 8 year we could just turn the senate maybe?
yeah they are both infeasible but one of them requires like so much on a logistical scale people would have to move find good internet so they can do their job and they are suggesting this in the middle of a economic collapse
fair, i just really hate these INDIVIDUAL PERSON CAN SOLVE THE PROBLEMS ideas like you can solve the problem and in a sense it is your fault that you haven't done it before it is all the people who live in cities due jobs and stuff instead of going into to a place in the middle of the nowhere abandoning their whole life they created in those places to solve a problem that no one in power wants to solve
I think convincing 200k people to move might actually be easier than changing the election systems
Also, like, just scenery-wise, while the bighorns and the rockies are nice if you end up in the high desert in eastern Wyoming it's like being in hell. Just dry flat scrub lands stretching out endlessly, featureless. They can't even grow crops there it's just dead land.
The entire great plains region sucks, both in terms of climate and politics, and if it can't be returned to the Natives then it should be sunk into the Earth to form an inland sea. Also not a big fan of most of the midwest. Except the forested sections, I love forests, I'd gladly brave the chuds of the UP for the forest.
So apparently, it's impossible for Democrats to persuade 35,000 voters by promising them literally anything. This is too difficult.
It's apparently easier to recreate the Yakumo conspiracy from Killer 7. Got it.
This is absolutely true for Wyoming, the only hope democrats have of winning there is moving people in. The other states are totally winnable by democrats as they are though. Hell, they've all had democratic senators in the last 10 years and Montana might be about to have 2 dem senators.
If just 220,000 work-from-home democratic voters moved to Montana, Wyoming, North Dakota, and Alaska, they could wage a protracted people's war and flip all seats of state!
lol it's not up to the PARTY to EARN SEATS the party's SIMPS have to MOVE THEIR ENTIRE FUCKING LIVES
I feel like "well-paid tech-employed" is just a nice way of saying neoliberal if we're talking about those not on the left.
I'm pretty sure it was well paid tech employees who were a deciding factor in why Kshama Sawant got reelected so this stuff isn't really so simple. Millennials just want someone who actually gives a shit and isn't going to be corrupted by money or political pressure, this goes beyond people actually wanting the country to become socialist.
That particular complaint you're referring to is something I've seen leading activists from every left/liberal org in the city say (DSA, Seattle people's party, different urbanism orgs, ect.), They all still vote for her if they live in the district though.
There are definitely some tech people who hate her, but the hill went like 90% her way and far more than 10% of the people who live here are tech workers. Most tech workers just vote for whoever the stranger endorses and don't think twice.
They are that Centrist techbro demographic the dems have decided is their base. Even if they aren't.
At least 1/3 of this group isn't a US citizen, among tech workers in the US, probably closer to 1/2. The immigrant group is definitely more right wing or centrist than the employees who almost entirely fall somewhere on the lib/left spectrum. The association with the right/republicans in the tech world isn't among people working programming jobs, it's people who want to be entrepreneurs, and even then it's still much more lib.
The point here is, the ideological center of the tech industry is probably still to the left of Yeglasias, but the majority of people are a lot like him politically.
if every leftist moved to north dakota we could turn it into left dakota
US Gov: whoopsie, accidentally dropped a few bombs in that region. we're very sorry, won't happen again
Who gets the existing missiles? (they're in Montana and North Dakota fyi)
The competing libertarian factions who will remain in the mountains for years unaware of the civil war’s end like one of those Japanese holdouts
Can you imagine the gentrification and housing crisis you'd cause by suddenly raising the population of a state by 20-50% (necessary to guarantee the state turns blue)? You may work from home, but you still need housing, Internet, water, heat, infrastructure to support it all, the supply networks necessary to deliver more goods to the remote area...
The necessary development may catch up over a generation, the way it did in, say, Colorado, but in the meantime you'll have a bunch of liberals encroaching on the locals' space while having a negligible effect on the elections.
I'm sure the locals aren't going to want to shoot the incoming yuppies that raise their housing costs and install bicycle lanes and shop online.
If a bunch of tech employed liberals moved into my town, I would unironically join the town posse to run them out.
2 of these states have a lot of unused housing as people have moved away from certain parts of the state due to declining oil revenues, and the other 2 have huge tourism destinations that are full of unused housing right now because it isn't ski season alongside the virus being a thing.
Gentrification wouldn't really be as much of a problem as it would be if a similar thing happened in some other areas.
