Just to add to this, a lot of people associate with the left is deeply contextual with the underlying historical conditions of a particular group of people and a given country.
In a lot of eastern european formerly communist countries, there are multiple left wing democratic socialist or social democratic parties that differ greatly on issues of social liberalism (both on issues like LGBT rights, but also on issues such as national identity, immigration, law and order, ect). Hell, the history of pro immigration sentiment within the western left stems from the fact that in a lot of countries the majority of people there aren't indigenous.
Social liberalism is still fundamentally rooted in enlightenement ideals that liberal democracy and modern capitalism arose from, that doesn't make it bad, but it deeply relates to social changes rooted in individualism rather than broader collective class action that defines the left in other parts of the world.
Just to add to this, a lot of people associate with the left is deeply contextual with the underlying historical conditions of a particular group of people and a given country.
In a lot of eastern european formerly communist countries, there are multiple left wing democratic socialist or social democratic parties that differ greatly on issues of social liberalism (both on issues like LGBT rights, but also on issues such as national identity, immigration, law and order, ect). Hell, the history of pro immigration sentiment within the western left stems from the fact that in a lot of countries the majority of people there aren't indigenous.
Social liberalism is still fundamentally rooted in enlightenement ideals that liberal democracy and modern capitalism arose from, that doesn't make it bad, but it deeply relates to social changes rooted in individualism rather than broader collective class action that defines the left in other parts of the world.
Marxism is also fundamentally rooted in those enlightenment ideals
I'm not disagreeing here, but socialism in China is also deeply rooted in confuscian ideals which are very distinct from enlightenment ones.
Confucian ideals are fundamentally reactionary, I think. Completely focused on the dominance of the patriarchy as societal structure
mao hated confucius lol
Extremely true