I think the idea is to develop through capitalism in a controlled way. I don't think anyone says that china isn't susceptible to the contradictions of capitalism.
Also, isn't the orthodox ML position that socialism develops out of capitalism?
If anything, that would make Mao the one that wasn't an orthodox ML by trying to skip capitalism with his hair brained great leap forward.
The Chinese dont have the luxury of hoping for a socialist revolution in the west. The west is probably further from than from that now than they were in the early 20th century.
The development of the productive forces of society under the careful watch of a Marxist vanguard party certainly seems pretty ML to me.
Maybe it's all a conspiracy and they are secretly trying to develop along the lines of the United States to stagnate development for the benefit of bourgeoise elites. I don't have a crystal ball though so I don't know what their secret agenda is.
So what's your point? It's impossible to develop socialism from capitalism? Should they go for a lord/serf or master slave dialectic? Do those dialectics miss? Mao tried going straight to socialism and it was a massive disaster. Should they try that again and maybe kill a few more million people?
Seems to me what you are suggesting is that we live in a rigidly deterministic universe where intentionally trying to direct the development of capitalism is impossible.
I think the idea is to develop through capitalism in a controlled way. I don't think anyone says that china isn't susceptible to the contradictions of capitalism.
Also, isn't the orthodox ML position that socialism develops out of capitalism?
If anything, that would make Mao the one that wasn't an orthodox ML by trying to skip capitalism with his hair brained great leap forward.
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So Lenin thought a peasant society is capable of developing socialism? News to me.
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The Chinese dont have the luxury of hoping for a socialist revolution in the west. The west is probably further from than from that now than they were in the early 20th century.
The development of the productive forces of society under the careful watch of a Marxist vanguard party certainly seems pretty ML to me.
Maybe it's all a conspiracy and they are secretly trying to develop along the lines of the United States to stagnate development for the benefit of bourgeoise elites. I don't have a crystal ball though so I don't know what their secret agenda is.
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So what's your point? It's impossible to develop socialism from capitalism? Should they go for a lord/serf or master slave dialectic? Do those dialectics miss? Mao tried going straight to socialism and it was a massive disaster. Should they try that again and maybe kill a few more million people?
Seems to me what you are suggesting is that we live in a rigidly deterministic universe where intentionally trying to direct the development of capitalism is impossible.