Thanks Dems for doing jack shit about abortion bans, trans bans, the cost of living, the drone strikes, global warming, COVID.

Might as well just call them Blue conservatives. The outcome of voting for them is much the same.

  • nofunberg@midwest.social
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    1 year ago

    I’m not keen on defending democrats, but there would absolutely be a federal abortion ban right now if Trump had been re-elected.

    Our government is in extremely bad shape, one federal election isn’t going to fix it.

      • Wheeze@programming.dev
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        1 year ago

        You do understand that this happened because of the supreme court, and not because of Biden, right? And the supreme court was able to do this because of Trump. Could you explain what Biden should have done to protect abortion rights on a federal level?

        • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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          1 year ago

          Surely! Here’s a small and incomplete list of things he could do, at varying levels of usefulness and ease:

          An executive order legalizing abortion nationwide

          Pack the Supreme Court

          Move the Supreme Court justices to lower courts and replacing them

          Simply ignore the Supreme Court, as several presidents have done in the past (Andrew Jackson being the most notable)

          Get his fucking party in order and pass a law legalizing abortion back when he had the majority in both the house and senate

          Open abortion clinics on federal land nationwide, claiming new land to do it on if there’s none available in a needed location

          Threaten to drone strike Clarence Thomas

          Withhold highway funds from states that ban abortion

          An executive order declaring banning abortion a felony, and then arresting every politician who implemented a ban

          Call for a general strike until abortion rights are re-established

          Personally sanction governors of states that ban abortion, freeze their bank accounts, seize their companies, all the shit we do to foreign leaders we don’t like

          Call for people in states that ban abortion to burn down their state capitols cool-zone

          Joe Biden is the President of the United States of America, the most powerful empire the world has ever seen. He’s not a powerless smol bean. If he actually wants something to happen, there’s a long list of ways to go about it. If something does or doesn’t happen under his watch, that is his responsibility.

          • GivingEuropeASpook@lemm.ee
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            1 year ago

            I've always been saying that if it were two Republicans that had held up every Trump legislative priority, Trump would have been bullying them every day until they acquiesced, but Biden allowed Manchin and Sinema to do exactly that and acted all powerless.

            Isn't it odd how the Presidency is only weak when it comes to Democrats passing their own platforms?

            • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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              1 year ago

              Oh my god, can you imagine if it was Ted Cruz and Mitt Romney holding things up? Trump would’ve had them killed if McConnell didn’t do it first. But the republicans don’t have that problem because they actually keep their members on the party line where it matters

              • huf [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                so do democrats. what you're seeing is not them failing to keep their party in line. this is their line.

              • GivingEuropeASpook@lemm.ee
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                1 year ago

                Of course. But one also has to question if the Democratic Party line is one of rotating villains. I don't think it's conscious, but Democrats probably felt like they do keep their members on the party line because large chunks of their sitting representatives are openly hostile to progressivism, so Manchin isn't "out of line" to them.

                Liberals will huff about him and Sinema, then turn around and excuse their actions because they're from West Virginia and Arizona, and "can't" be like "coastal dems" if they want to be re-elected to which I'm just like "then what use are they to you?"

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Biden could literally declare them unlawful enemy combatants and have them shot. He's the president of the united states of america he can do whatever he wants.

        • TillieNeuen [she/her]
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          1 year ago

          He could have packed the court. Have you ever watched The Alt-Right Playbook Series? I think it does a good job of explaining some of the reasons why the democrats are mostly useless. It doesn't get into the problem of both the Ds and Rs being capitalists, but it does explain how Ds wag their fingers and Rs just keep doing wild shit anyway.

    • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      Yeah because we should totally trust that the guy who spent 99% of his career opposing reproduction rights just couldn't do anything to stop the supreme court from overturning Roe

      Yeah, seems like Biden just let it happen because even if his position changed publicly for the 2020 election, what he believes behind closed doors never changed

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        1 year ago

        I get the impression no one in the senior dems actually cared about abortion. Pelosi saying it wasn't important, multiple failures to pass legislation. The unforgivable acceptance of fash scotus' lies when they said they weren't going to overthrow roe. They've never done anything to protect abortion on the national level, and the simplest explanation is they don't give a shit.

          • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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            1 year ago

            The Dem strategy on abortion was always to campaign and fundraise and do nothing material.

            Its still their strategy, but it was their strategy, too.

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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            1 year ago

            Ugh. Tim fucking Kaine. "Vote for me and we're one heartbeat away from a catholic fanatic taking office!"

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      1 year ago

      there would absolutely be a federal abortion ban right now if Trump had been re-elected.

      There will be a federal abortion ban in another few years, half a dozen Dem Senators will vote for it, and if you suggest they should be recalled or primaried out then you'll actually be on the side of the Republicans.