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    • BOK6669 [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Why would anyone want to listen to jazz though? It doesn't exist organically in anyone's community anymore and the reason why you found yourself interested in jazz is because you had a music department, you studied music and there was an obvious facilitation of your interests and the skills you built upon.

      I think if all it took was the internet and a passing interest in something, we would all be listening to like Venezuelan Hropo, Indian Classical or Ewe drum music. But no, we mostly listen to pop musics and if we are crazy and liked the soundtrack to Cowboy Bebop or something- jazz and classical. I think saying all you need is YouTube is reactionary

      I'm also not saying outliers don't exist but there's no point in bringing them up when the extreme majority of the trend is that people aren't interested in classical or jazz. I really don't think it's because of taste or intelligence, I think it's just exposure.

      When people bring up how people used to love classical or jazz, I always need to respond, duh, it was everywhere.

        • BOK6669 [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          But my point is that with the public school training and your clarinet you already had a foundational ear training that most people don't ever get in their entire lifetimes. And how do people start listening anyway? We have to keep going back to exposure and I'm going to keep saying that just because it's on YouTube doesn't mean people will look for it or even be interested by it if they do find it. You had a music education that was sufficient enough to keep you interested and going, a lot of the US can't speak to that.

          You personally havent really said anything about your music program too, like it blows my mind when people make the arguments you're making and then their school did Essentially Ellington competitions or were well funded. Not saying you're that but it happens a lot when I do have this discussion.

            • BOK6669 [none/use name]
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              4 years ago

              The first point is the one you're making, people can just find it on YouTube and learn to like academic music. To which if were the case, more people would like Bird.

              The point I'm making (I hope lol) is that communities are being sucked dry financially and it effects things like the sense of community and education, amongst other things. I think that because of this, people don't have an appreciation for music. Instead people are exposed to increasingly cheaper and simpler music to the point that even hard bop sounds complicated and/or requires too much attention span.

              Most people just work, fuck around on their phones, watch tv, dread going back to work, then repeat. Where does developing a broad musical palette fit into that? It doesn't. If you were left behind by our failing country, you'll likely never really enjoy jazz or classical.