• FunkyStuff [he/him]
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      3 months ago

      I used to find it funny when I thought it was supposed to be a meta-ironic thing, like "isn't it funny that Americans believe this is what someone from Kazakhstan is like"

      Then I found out Sacha Baron Cohen is actually a Zionist who fully believes that Kazakhs are like that.

      • neo [he/him]
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        3 months ago

        I also used to think that was the point. Borat as a character was used to poke fun of American ignorance and racism. Maybe if I go back and rewatch old episodes of the ali g show I would still think that.

        But whatever that original portrayal might be, the current version is painfully unfunny and plainly racist unto itself. Not very different from white people going "removed" to do a fake Chinese accent.

      • plinky [he/him]
        hexagon
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        3 months ago

        I mean meta irony would be if he used his own identity, and not racist caricatures invented in his little racist head and then slap real country names on top.

        I legit don't understand this viewpoint, didn't in 2000s either.

        Pardon my comparison, but if he done blackface and started talking about voodoo to real americans to expose their beliefs about black people, it's still would be as racist as 30s america.

        • REgon [they/them]
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          3 months ago

          but if he done blackface

          Ali G would like to have a word.

          • plinky [he/him]
            hexagon
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            3 months ago

            i mean i saw it as playing white boys who play at being american black rapper, but i haven't particularly investigated his works, just seen some clips.

            • REgon [they/them]
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              3 months ago

              I'm pretty certain he's supposed to read as a middle eastern man

                • REgon [they/them]
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                  3 months ago

                  Like 2nd-3rd generation immigrant I mean. I dunno, I only saw the movie and it's been years

      • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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        3 months ago

        I mean he knows they aren't like that because they filmed in Romania, not in Kazakhstan, because Kazakhstan is far too developed to fit the stereotype he was going for

  • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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    3 months ago

    This is literally a bit that Iran would have on state media to make fun of the way the West sees Muslims. Beyond parody.

    stalin-gun-1stalin-gun-2

  • RomCom1989 [he/him, any]
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    3 months ago

    Fucking hack

    The "Kazakhstan" in his shitty movie was a Roma village in Romania and he exploited them for his stupid eastern bloc minstrel shit

    I spit on his fucking western chauvinist ,racist face

    https://youtu.be/vLeaVbyCTyc?feature=shared

    Villagers after they saw what he said to them in English

  • GoodGuyWithACat [he/him]
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    3 months ago

    He tried to do a serious movie where he was a Mossad agent and I'm sure nobody saw it.

  • MaoTheLawn [any, any]
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    3 months ago

    his best work was the one where he goes to America as a mossad agent and then convinces some moron to do anti muslim terrorism training - which is just roleplaying being gay, and shouting 'America' while offering your ass.

  • REgon [they/them]
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    3 months ago

    That's just straight up racist.
    Like in Borat it worked because it was more about a country bumpkin and he did the fucked up shit to get a reaction from real people so he kinda needed to be from a "real" country. Or at least that's what I thought. I thought part of the joke was that americans would believe that that is how people from Kazakhstan behave. This makes it clear that it's just what he thinks of them.

    Don't get me wrong, it was racist then too, but "it was a different time" + it was at least funny. "King in the castle, king in the castle" is a good bit.
    This is just hacky. And it's removed from the context of being in a movie where nobody else is in on the joke.
    Of course what would one expect from a man who fucked over a Romanian village like that. Bastard.

  • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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    3 months ago

    Wasn't the whole point of the movie that the joke was on the audience?

    I don't think America was ever conscious enough for that.